Nasus needs a nerf

Persephonie·Jul 31, 2015·3 votes·1,346 views

Nasus needs a nerf, he is way too tanky, does insane damage, afks all games and split pushes, has no counterplay and he can just literally walk into the enemy team and deal massive amounts of damage with only one damage item. It is absolutely ridiculous, even his life steal, one q can heal over 1/8 of his health and thats a lot of hp especially when they build health items. His w is broken, it lasts forever and once its gone he can just use it again in mere seconds. Yes you can kill him by having your whole team just focus him when he takes so long to die and 9 times out of 10 he will take someone down with him. Honestly i am tired of having to have so much stress towards one champion. The only way to counterplay a nasus is to pray to god that he is bad. I feel as though someone that tanky should not do that much damage, it completely defies the role of tank, they are meant to soak damage, not do insane damage at the same time. Even if nasus goes negative, he can just farm and split push all game and if the enemy team tries to stop him he will just w the carry, ult and do massive damage to them. Nasus needs some type of nerf, especially in lower elo that do not know how to play against a nasus.

20 Comments

Only Play DariusJul 31, 20154 votes

He is a piss-poor tank because he has no hard CC. The most he can do in a teamfight is bodyblock skillshots.

If he has been afk farming all game and you don't take advantage of the 5v4, then it's on you.

Yosuke ApperuJul 31, 20152 votes

Op said something among the lines of "He only builds one damage item"..+ Boots... so that's two.. and he has 4 tank items.. the reason he's a tank is through itemization. His base stats aren't THAT tanky. Jelly Mac you hit it pretty well.

PersephonieJul 31, 20151 votes

Even so, his 15% lifesteal from his q is insane when it is highly stacked, especially with a spirit visage and triforce.

Yosuke ApperuAug 1, 20151 votes

again though, you have to let him stack for him to get "highly stacked"

doombladeNov 9, 20151 votes

And you keep him from sitting under turret and stacking anyways how? I've had a Nasus player tell me I was doing fine until I pushed him under turret, because he can build his stacks there easily, no harassment. So how do deal with one that doesn't leave turret? Roam? and let him get stacks even easier?

Yosuke ApperuNov 9, 20151 votes

Harrass him without pushing lane, darius should be able to destroy him, singed is annoying for a nasus player lol. Honestly I'd just call for ganks, whenever I play nasus I almost always get camped.

PersephonieJul 31, 20152 votes

I suppose you are right, but again i said in lower elo. People who are not too experienced do not know what do when the enemy team has a nasus. They think that when they try to gank him he will just escape with his w or because he is too tanky with his ult. People are afraid of nasus because they think that they will die to him with a w-q-r-q combo

doombladeNov 9, 20151 votes

Well the fact that he can pretty much one shot anyone other then another tank is actually pretty valid in a team fight, He doesn't need to have CC because others will. so he can walk right over, often taking negligible damage and destroy at least one member of the team. Best case, people have to waste a lot of abilities to put him down, worst case he can completely destroy your whole line up. Sure you can run, but that situation means that you are constantly loosing objectives.

Gordo SanJul 31, 20152 votes

Honestly if you lose to a Nasus, you let him farm too easily, or the game went on for waaaaaaaaay too long.

Ever wonder why Nasus is hardly picked/banned in competitive?

PersephonieJul 31, 20152 votes

That's the thing, in lower elo no one understand what to do against a nasus, they most of the time let him farm all game without trying to end the game fast enough.

Only Play DariusJul 31, 20152 votes

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Ever wonder why Nasus is hardly picked/banned in competitive?

Reminds me of that UOL vs. FNC game where Unicorns picked Poppy. If Poppy got to late game, she would have obliterated Fnatic, but at the pro level, people actually know how to abuse early game weaknessess and closeout a game. Fnatic ended the game at 20 minutes, Poppy didn't even get her second item. It was kind of sad.

Yosuke ApperuJul 31, 20151 votes

Funny thing here is that you described tryndamere rather well :p

SirPacifistaAug 22, 20151 votes

First of all, this one match is in no way representative, it just sjows taht you want to focus your anger on Nasus because oyu lost your game.

Secondly, he has a weak early game, can be outplayed by various champions and ranged champions can harass him to death without him doing anything. If he gets 400+ stacks, he is still ebatable if you know what you are doing, but he shouldnt come to this point if you know what you are doing (or at elast only late game, but thats where he shines)

MLDzXnRRRAug 22, 20151 votes

You had only 1 champion with good CC - Nautilus... The dog is useless in teamfights - gets nuked by AOE and can't reach anyone from CC...

MCBiggah99Aug 22, 20151 votes

Remember TSM vs CLG, Zionspartan picked Nasus.

There you go.

BadmoonBCNov 9, 20151 votes

Lower elos can't deal with nassus because they either blind pick top lane into him, or the kinglet doesn't understand he needs to camp him. Same thing with veigar. Jungled refuses to camp him so he will just get insanely big. If your looking for a way to beat nassus, I have 1 word for you, pantheon. I have to 100% win rate with pantheon in ranked and it's because of the enemy picks a nasus I counter pick with pantheon and proceed to beat the pee out of him. Buy a crystalline with 3 hps and a mans, Get him low with, spam q's. Then freeze lane near your turret and zone him out of farm. That's it, GG. You don't even need the jungler.

LintheNov 9, 20151 votes

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Lower elos can't deal with nassus because they either blind pick top lane into him, or the kinglet doesn't understand he needs to camp him. Same thing with veigar. Jungled refuses to camp him so he will just get insanely big. If your looking for a way to beat nassus, I have 1 word for you, pantheon. I have to 100% win rate with pantheon in ranked and it's because of the enemy picks a nasus I counter pick with pantheon and proceed to beat the pee out of him. Buy a crystalline with 3 hps and a mans, Get him low with, spam q's. Then freeze lane near your turret and zone him out of farm. That's it, GG. You don't even need the jungler.

This.. I played against a Panth yesterday. Horrendous matchup. Personally, I still think Tahm Kench is worse but Pantheon is really bad.

To OP: LOL. No.. Nasus is in SUCH a bad spot... I was actually thinking about starting a thread asking what the WORST matchup for Nasus was because I played him a couple of times over the weekend. It's almost not even fun anymore because I get denied so much farm.

BadmoonBCNov 9, 20151 votes

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This.. I played against a Panth yesterday. Horrendous matchup. Personally, I still think Tahm Kench is worse but Pantheon is really bad.

To OP: LOL. No.. Nasus is in SUCH a bad spot... I was actually thinking about starting a thread asking what the WORST matchup for Nasus was because I played him a couple of times over the weekend. It's almost not even fun anymore because I get denied so much farm.

I could definitely see tahm being a nightmare too. Jayce does ok against him by pantheon really is the best for many reasons: 1)excellent early game. One of thI best early game champs so it really kills nasus' bad early game 2)spamming spears are point and click, don't use a ton of mana and do good damage from range 3)a good pantheon can block a lot of nassus qs if he knows what he's doing and really usually won't lose a me lee battle with nassus til late game 4)pantheon has two teleports and can get back to lane super fast to make sure nasus can't farm. So basically use your ult to get back to lane quicker to continue harassing nasus. Now the cons of this are obvious, your basically trusting your team to 4v4. BUT, you are taking nasus completely out of the game, and although pantheon falls off bad late game, if you prevent nasus from stacking, he doesn't just fall off late game, he becomes absolutely useless. My last pantheon vs nasus game I believe nasus had 253 stacks at 43 minutes. He was completely useless. My kda? 3/6/8 or some crap and I started 2/1/1. But it didn't matter, I did my job.

Excuse typos I'm on my phone and auto correct is a mother ******

LintheNov 9, 20151 votes

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I could definitely see tahm being a nightmare too. Jayce does ok against him by pantheon really is the best for many reasons: 1)excellent early game. One of thI best early game champs so it really kills nasus' bad early game 2)spamming spears are point and click, don't use a ton of mana and do good damage from range

Yea. Again.. This.

The Panth yesterday played it really well early. He just stood on my minions and chucked spears. Which took like 25% of my health. The only thing I thought odd was he never pushed that advantage to objectives. I actually took his outer before he got mine.

I dont remember my exact stacks but it was really bad. Maybe 100 at 20:00. I stole some jungle camps and split pushed later so I ended up sorta ok. But it was in no way fun.

doombladeNov 9, 2015

You guys are ignoring the OP's point, in lower levels, If you don't know what to do, He's god. If you have no good way to keep him from CS, He's god, If you beat him too hard early on, He can hide under tower while still easily building stacks if he knows what he is doing. and you can't even take advantage of him playing completely defensively and go roaming because then he gets his stacks even easier. I've played several games against a nasus, always taken the advantage early on, have him sit under tower, and it goes to shit from there. Am I good at league, No, I'm pretty sure I'm not, so comment that I'm a whiny unranked all you want, I just want to know a situation where I can actually do shit against him where he doesn't find a way to benefit without slowing down the rest of the team. The argument That I see most often is go and win 4v5 with the rest of your team, Thats all well and good, but that also means Nasus sits in lane with no harassment, building his stacks even faster. So if you try that, and even one team fight goes to shit, Which is a freaking given in blind picks where bronzes get mixed with golds and silvers, then you've moved to slow, and he gets to start being a huge presence in team fights. People also argue that adc's can easily kite him in late game. Also a valid point, but if the other team is smart, adc's are typically the first target, You don't mess around hitting a tank when an adc is melting you. At least as far as I understand it, on the flipside, Nasus makes that rule invalid. He essentially acts as another Mage or adc, Hitting for crazy high damage, while having a tanks survivablility. Yes he has no real abilities to make him useful as a tank, except that his presence pretty much means you have to focus him. because unlike other tanks, you can't afford to take even one hit. I'm just putting my opinion out there, I welcome anyone to argue against me, just please make it about Nasus instead of making Ad Hominen remarks.