Do people still think yasuo is op?

Ethereal Mist··4 votes·5,901 views

Like, what... Idk how bad some people have to be to even lose to a yasuo, let alone think that he's op anymore. Honestly, he was fine when he had warlord's but of course the bronzies had to step in and overeact to yasuo being good again. The main problem with champions like riven and yasuo is that they do really well against bad players and something like 70% of league players are silver or below. It's extremely annoying that one of the highest skillcap champions basically isn't allowed to be seen in high level play because the noobies will flip shit if he ever gets anything resembling a buff. He has a 47% win rate right now and people still continue to complain about him... I just don't understand these people...

31 Comments

Dominick Destine7 votes

Manaless. Huge scaling. Skill-less. Face the wind.

Skelenth8 votes

Mobility Sustain CC Armorshred

Papa Andrei8 votes

Double crit chance Skillshot negate, Angst Abbs

TehNACHO3 votes

And a winrate to show that all these strengths you three have listed still do not amount to much.

Vexful1 votes

Thresh LeeSin Illaoi Have 47% winrates too.........Ryze is at a 45% and hes banned heavily still. Winrate alone is not an argument. I'm not saying Yas is op but don't base everything off winrates. LB got a nerf last season because her winrate went to 51%. Riot even said that they did it because at the highest end of the spectrum that meant someone who could take full advantage of her was rewarded too much.

TehNACHO1 votes

Because listing all of Yasuo's strengths without contextualizing them with his weakness is correct?

I'm trying to point out the irony here in the chain posts. Just randomly pointing out things about Yasuo in isolation without considering the bigger picture is not only what you're calling me out, but is also what the other three in succession have done and tends to be the main topic of every Yasuo QQ thread in existence.

Dominick Destine5 votes

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And a winrate

I want to call you what you are, but Riot frowns on such things so I will not.

Winrate argument has been decimated time and again... presenting such nonsense only displays your low skill; Win rate tends to be deflated by high pick rate, the higher the pick rate, the greater the deflation.

Win rate is inflated by low pick rate, though the win rate is not as proportional the lower the pick rate.

Point being, win rate in isolation means nothing. The most overpowered characters tend to have low win rates precisely because of their high pick rates... there are edge cases/outliers like post-rework Gangplank or release LeBlanc, but generally these rules stay true.

Your argument is garbage.

TehNACHO1 votes

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Because listing all of Yasuo's strengths without contextualizing them with his weakness is correct?

I'm trying to point out the irony here in the chain posts. Just randomly pointing out things about Yasuo in isolation without considering the bigger picture is not only what you're calling me out, but is also what the other three in succession have done and tends to be the main topic of every Yasuo QQ thread in existence.

Although to entertain you, let's try to isolate the Yasuo mains. Champion.gg states that the Yasuo players who have played him over 125 times approach 50%. Not break 50%, they only approach it.

DrNova3 votes

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Although to entertain you, let's try to isolate the Yasuo mains. Champion.gg states that the Yasuo players who have played him over 125 times approach 50%. Not break 50%, they only approach it.

Did you just quote yourself you jersey shore fist pumping bastard?

TehNACHO1 votes

Well duh. I just reposted the exact same response since it was fitting. What was I going to do, not make it a point that I can apply the exact same post twice in a row?

Or did you think I tried to use that quote as a point of authority hoping nobody would check? Little cynical there I mean.

Dominick Destine2 votes

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they only approach it.

And what pick rate is that? is it higher than the average? answer: Yes.

It's not complicated. Literally nothing of what you argued contradicts my point, if anything you've strengthened my argument.

IronwallJackson1 votes

I think the point is that, when even mains don't usually break a 50% in rate, there's a decent chance that a champion is either undertuned or the metagame doesn't favor them.

Desastrus1 votes

"Win rate tends to be deflated by high pick rate, the higher the pick rate, the greater the deflation.

Win rate is inflated by low pick rate"

And by what law of probability does that follow?

Skelenth2 votes

It's not the winrate that makes normal people hate Yasuo, it's the overloaded and annyoing kit he has.

I AmNot A Person4 votes

Fuck Yasuo. Play Adventure Time Battle Party and check out Finn.

Ethereal Mist1 votes

[{quoted}](name=I AmNot A Person,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JqaroE8k,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-01-17T02:34:57.780+0000)

Fuck Yasuo. Play Adventure Time Battle Party and check out Finn.

More like guntBUSTED

DrNova3 votes

He isn't op, but he's far from up.

A good yas is a terror, even if you are competent yourself.

Ethereal Mist1 votes

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He isn't op, but he's far from up.

A good yas is a terror, even if you are competent yourself.

Against an immobile mage, yes. Against any sort of assassin or mobile mage he doesn't stand a chance. Thanks you for posting something relevant to the topic for once.

Maximum Morde2 votes

I don't think he's OP. I just think he's a filthy weeb. Really Riot should publicly post all the names of Yasuo players on Facebook so we all know who not to interact with in real life. Nobody likes a weeb.

EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Lol says someone who probably lives with their momma still. Grow up get a job and be productive to society brat.

Ethereal Mist2 votes

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I don't think he's OP. I just think he's a filthy weeb. Really Riot should publicly post all the names of Yasuo players on Facebook so we all know who not to interact with in real life. Nobody likes a weeb.

r8 8/8 m8

Troiann1 votes

You're crying about a video game character on the internet and acting like a baby.

I'd rather deal with a weeb.

GIZMO0202271 votes

[{quoted}](name=Maximum Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JqaroE8k,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-17T01:57:38.002+0000)

I don't think he's OP. I just think he's a filthy weeb. Really Riot should publicly post all the names of Yasuo players on Facebook so we all know who not to interact with in real life. Nobody likes a weeb.

but you're playing league...?

Akali is SO HOT2 votes

People will always think he's op

Void Nargacuga1 votes

I play him and understand his kit (I am not great at him though, but I am learning), but yeah what your saying is true sadly.

Çhåryzård2 votes

Well,

  1. He gets a free shield by just moving around
  2. His crits are insane especially with the new keystones
  3. He gets a knockup
  4. He can dash repeatedly forever as long as there are new enemies nearby, making him very hard to even hit in the first place with a minion wave in lane
  5. If you are about to land a skillshot he can block it with a wall that blocks pretty much everything

He's a very hard champion to do anything to. It is already hard to hit him with skillshots as he can just keep dashing, he has a knockup, he can block everything with a wall, and his crits are just insane.

Last I checked his winrate was around 50%.

Can he be beaten? Yes. Is he hard to lane against? Definitely, especially as an ap midlaner. He can spam while you have to ration your mana thanks to those nice mana pots being taken away.

What I was thinking was what if they changed his dashes so it was like Ahri's ult? He could dash 3 times to 3 things in a certain amount of time, and after that it goes on a longer cooldown. That'd at least make it a bit easier to actually hit him with something.

Ethereal Mist1 votes

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Well,

  1. He gets a free shield by just moving around
  2. His crits are insane especially with the new keystones
  3. He gets a knockup
  4. He can dash repeatedly forever as long as there are new enemies nearby, making him very hard to even hit in the first place with a minion wave in lane
  5. If you are about to land a skillshot he can block it with a wall that blocks pretty much everything

He's a very hard champion to do anything to. It is already hard to hit him with skillshots as he can just keep dashing, he has a knockup, he can block everything with a wall, and his crits are just insane.

Last I checked his winrate was around 50%.

Can he be beaten? Yes. Is he hard to lane against? Definitely, especially as an ap midlaner. He can spam while you have to ration your mana thanks to those nice mana pots being taken away.

What I was thinking was what if they changed his dashes so it was like Ahri's ult? He could dash 3 times to 3 things in a certain amount of time, and after that it goes on a longer cooldown. That'd at least make it a bit easier to actually hit him with something.

Um, you kinda forgot the point that yasuo can't do fucking anything to you if he's just dashing around in a minions wave all the time and doing that also makes him extremely gankable because the wave will push to your tower. The ONLY problem with yasuo is that bad players can't exploit is massive weaknesses which leads to him not being able to be buffed for high levels of play which really sucks for the actually decent players.

Papa Andrei1 votes

Hey, go on youtube, look up a guy named Trinimmortal, and watch him play Yasuo. Then tell me he can't be op.

Void Nargacuga1 votes
EcchiOtakuTM1 votes

Yes watch 1 person be op, probably vs people who let em.

Ethereal Mist1 votes

Borkeness No-skilledness op pls nerf

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