Shaco mains assemble.

Onwodori·Oct 19, 2016·2 votes·1,417 views

What do we take away from all this?

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14 Comments

AstroFerrari Oct 19, 20166 votes

I'm surprised no one has had anything to say about Shaco yet, he's probably gonna be one of the biggest threats with the new assassin items. Should be an interesting season

OnwodoriOct 19, 20165 votes

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I'm surprised no one has had anything to say about Shaco yet, he's probably gonna be one of the biggest threats with the new assassin items. Should be an interesting season

AP Shaco got a whole lot scarier too.

lolipopevelynnOct 19, 20162 votes

i really dont care about any if it if they havent fixed the countless bugs with is clone + make it less of a vegetable when controlling.

Troy242621Oct 19, 20161 votes

Shaco: Picked for early game and split pushing Riot be like: We need to nerf his early game and split pushing...

In seriousness they need to fix his f*%^ing boxes if they want to move his power into them, things get one shotted by a rolling breeze at every point in the game.

Him dropping a box while only briefly breaking stealth or his ult dropping miniboxes doesn't matter when they die instantly. The nerfs look far more substantial than the buffs considering that.

OnwodoriOct 19, 20161 votes

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Shaco: Picked for early game and split pushing Riot be like: We need to nerf his early game and split pushing...

In seriousness they need to fix his f*%^ing boxes if they want to move his power into them, things get one shotted by a rolling breeze at every point in the game. Him dropping a box while only briefly breaking stealth or his ult dropping miniboxes doesn't matter when they die instantly.

Eh but he has some really fierce new tricks now. He could conceivably hop all around team fights and create chaos, especially with max CDR and boxes not appearing.

Troy242621Oct 19, 20161 votes

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Eh but he has some really fierce new tricks now. He could conceivably hop all around team fights and create chaos, especially with max CDR and boxes not appearing.

I'm happy for AP Shaco players but I want my AD Shaco jungle to still be strong when played properly, and his W changes encourage a bad habit

Although I do like he can ult while stealthed. Ultimately though if he's going to be forced to teamfight his goal is to erase the enemy adc which usually means Q in and one shot them, so I question how much these "buffs" will matter.

I honestly think I'd rather have his current iteration, where I can get fed early and still one shot carries late game if I want to.

OnwodoriOct 19, 20161 votes

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I'm happy for AP Shaco players but I want my AD Shaco jungle to still be strong when played properly, and his W changes encourage a bad habit

Um have you tried blood razor Shaco recently? He's very strong and this will perpetuate with these changes. The new Keystone too synergizes with the perma slow on his E that might give birth to a cool bruiser Shaco.

Troy242621Oct 19, 20161 votes

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Um have you tried blood razor Shaco recently? He's very strong and this will perpetuate with these changes. The new Keystone too synergizes with the perma slow on his E that might give birth to a cool bruiser Shaco.

I don't like bruiser Shaco now, never have and never will. I don't think it fits his fantasy, either, although his ult changes certainly encourage it as well.

OnwodoriOct 19, 20161 votes

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I don't like bruiser Shaco now, never have and never will. I don't think it fits his fantasy, either, although his ult changes certainly encourage it as well.

So build item 3074 item 3078 item 1412 item 3142 and resume blowing people off the face of the earth.

Troy242621Oct 19, 20161 votes

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So build and resume blowing people off the face of the earth.

I still build the classic. item 1400 item 3074 item 3087 item 3031

Cloud273Oct 19, 20161 votes

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Shaco: Picked for early game and split pushing Riot be like: We need to nerf his early game and split pushing...

In seriousness they need to fix his f*%^ing boxes if they want to move his power into them, things get one shotted by a rolling breeze at every point in the game.

Him dropping a box while only briefly breaking stealth or his ult dropping miniboxes doesn't matter when they die instantly. The nerfs look far more substantial than the buffs considering that.

Even if they die quickly, it actually does matter if he uses them properly. If someone is unable to enter a fight because they got feared by a box, it becomes a 5 v 4, making a teamfight easily winnable. Shaco isn't meant for burst, he's meant to be a complete nuisance for the enemy team, and he does this very well.

Troy242621Oct 19, 20161 votes

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Even if they die quickly, it actually does matter if he uses them properly. If someone is unable to enter a fight because they got feared by a box, it becomes a 5 v 4, making a teamfight easily winnable. Shaco isn't meant for burst, he's meant to be a complete nuisance for the enemy team, and he does this very well.

I would strongly disagree that his goal isn't ultimately to burst people as an assassin.

7thHeavenOct 19, 20162 votes

Box health scales with his level

AhristocatsOct 19, 20161 votes

his passive is a nerf

old passive gave 20% bonus damage, now it crits for 120% damage meaning it's the same but with a cooldown he needed it to nerf his early game

Q changes are good W change is good R changes are good

but? in the end it isn't enough. If you want to make shaco a serious pick you need to look at his base stats, and at his damage.

first they didn't "delay his burst" like for the other assassins, and they didn't look at his midgame. Shaco mid game cannot work without items and that's a shame. Almost every assassins can kill a target in midgame if they didn't finish an item. Shaco needs one item no matter what it is (triforce, IE, or shiv or hydra).