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Karthus sucks.

Sylvan Evergreen·10/13/2014, 2:59:44 AM·1 votes·2,378 views

*Frikin had to rewrite all of this again because my mouse is retarded >:( *

Yep, like the title says, Karthus is a terrible champion. He's a cool champion concept, and has some pretty... interesting abilities, but he's WAY too easily countered. He needs a buff, rework, or something to make him a viable option again.

Here's a list of how easy it is to counter Karthus:

His Q (Lay Waste): Just get mobility. As long as you can move fast you can easily dodge Karthus's Q seeing as it has a fairly long-ish cast time and is a very small spell. Plus it is very easy to see him cast it.

His W (Wall of Pain): Buy Boots of Swiftness. Enough said.

His E (Defile): Just don't get close to him. This problem usually only applies to melee champions, but if you're a crit mele champion (Yasuo, Tryndamere, Gangplank, etc.) then this is no problem for you seeing as Karthus is very easy to kill due to him being very squishy and having low mobility.

His R (Requiem) Spell shields or any shield in general works for this seeing as it doesn't do a ton of damage.

His Passive (Death Defied): This is the same with Sion, but easier because he can't even move unlike Sion. Just stay away from him and he can do nothing to you.

Overall, Karthus is just way too easy to counter and not really helpful at all. Feel free to comment you thoughts, but try to not be a jerk.

INB4 "You suck you stupid noob, you just don't know how to play xxXxXxXxXxMLGuber1337prOKarthusxxXxXxXxXxXXX!" or "Karthus is way overpowered noob, you suck uninstall."

12 Comments

12tales10/13/2014, 3:44:31 AM2 votes

His E (Defile): Just don't get close to him.

Zone control is a strength, not a weakness.

Anyways, Karthus is a solid champ. He still outfarms pretty much every champion in the game, he still has insane damage output, his ultimate still does what his ultimate does. As a champion, he doesn't really fit into what most teams want to do right now, but that doesn't change who he is. He still pops up from time to time in competitive play for that reason - he's a very niche champion, but still the best in his niche.

I mean, I like playing him, so I wouldn't be sad if he got buffs. But I don't really think he needs any.

EvilRabbitt10/13/2014, 3:06:44 AM1 votes

No, Karthus is weak. His kit revolves around hitting one target for lots of damage or many targets for minimal damage (look at Q tooltip, realize R is weak). Thing is, its all essentially "skillshots". Q is a timebomb in a spot (Zilean has a better skill), W is a passable wall that is pointless to be afraid of (Azir has better, Yasuo has better, Anivia has better), E is an aura of damage (Mundo has better), R is a field "nuke". It only works if you build glassy, and then they build so much as 70 magic resist into themselves and its essentially a tool to poke with.

TL:DR? Buy Mercury Treads with Alacrity and then Karthus is almost completely negated.

Deep Terror Nami10/13/2014, 3:11:26 AM1 votes

Idk. I haven't done well on Karthus the very few times I tried, but I do have an acquaintance (Trefold) that went from Silver to Diamond in 2 months on almost exclusively Karthus. Freaking insane and make me sad that I can't carry like that as support lol. Anyway, any champion is viable if you work hard at it. It's ok if you can't make it work, don't be afraid to leave it behind and pick another.

Durmeth the Vile10/13/2014, 3:37:56 AM1 votes

I don't have any real problems when I play Karthus. Sure, you're skills don't necessarily do tons of immediate damage. And yea, plan on dying. But I get alot done once dead with his passive. Do what you can, die in the middle of a team fight, kill 2 more people while they fight your team, or ult those escaping.

Dying is sort of Karthus's thing. I usually don't do too badly with him.

blackcat130010/14/2014, 10:29:20 PM1 votes

First Karthus is my favorite champ.

second Riot did hit him with a mafia still nerf bat a few patches back were they then ran over him with a car back up over him got out and gave him some new cloths and called it all good.

I would like to see some buffs to Karthus or just giving him back his his wall of pain it used to last for seven seconds reset if you ran back in to it and had 35% MR and ARMOR resist at max.

plus Aatrox Zilean Zac Anivia item 3102

Have in directly neffed him his ap scaling is really low and he has low serviceability all it takes is to two 1 him and he looses.

He still has great globle pressure and can push lane like no other witch is the only reason he is still good. Not great like he us to be.

blackcat130010/14/2014, 10:34:48 PM1 votes

I would also change him in a different way.

Karthus is missing something to make up for certain falls in the mid game. So I would like the to add a stacking passive to defiled. Passive each kill give you a stack, max 5, each stack gives 1,2,3,4,5 per cent spell vamp Active when toggle on defiled he gets bonus % of ability power to all abilities you toggle off defile. You then loose all stacks and you loose all stacks at the end of death defied.

I think this would be a nice revamp to an old champ and would allow him to return to the pro seen. I would help to prevent early game magic resist shut down and help give karthus back some damage. I would increase his skill cap suitability and would not make him over powered. with max stacks and having defiled on you can have 55%/75% Q 55% E and 75% R This could be redused to only 0.5, 1, 2, 3, 4 Q. I know the ult seems op but late game if it doesn't kill someone life steel usually negate the damage.

I would also like to see 2,4,6,8,5 spellvamp per-stack and 1,2,3,4,5% bonus ap to all ablities. Since you only gain stackes when defile is toggled off and loos all stacks when toggled from on to off, this max for a fun mechanic.

Max stack 200ap change lv 1-5 Wall 5%=10 10%=20 15%=30 25%=50 Defile 25%=50 30%=60 35%=70 40%=80 45%=90 Lay waist 35%=70 40%=80 45%=90 50%=10 55%=110 Lay Waist single target and ult 65%=130 70%=140 75%=150 80%=160 85%=170

Max stack 1070ap change from lv 1-5 Wall 5%=535 10%=107 15%=160 25%=267 Defile 25%=267 30%=321 35%=375 40%=428 45%=482 Lay waist 35%=375 40%=428 45%=482 50%=535 55%=588 Lay waist single target and ult 65%=695 70%=749 75%=803 80%=856 85%=909 %ap could be change to .5,1,2,3,4

(http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/2pGaFIhA-karthus-e-rework-to-give-him-more-utility-and-skill-machanics)