Skarner's Crystal Spires shouldn't reveal their capture if they're not visible.

TheThundersRoar·12/30/2017, 11:37:03 PM·36 votes·1,719 views

If the enemy Skarner captures one of his Crystal Spires, it immediately turns red on the minimap, and you can even put your camera over it to see how recently he captured it (it has a cooldown animation). This means that Skarner can't counter-jungle effectively. Either he captures and gives away his position, or takes forever to clear and risks running into the enemy jungler.

It also means he can't sneak Dragon, Herald, or quickly take Scuttle, without letting the whole map know.

#The crystals shouldn't give away their status until your team has vision on them.

34 Comments

PhantomGG12/31/2017, 12:38:55 AM14 votes

Jungle Main here

When I am facing Skarner I actually don't even take them, for I don't wanna reveal myself, as a jungler secrecy is everything.

PaffWasTaken12/31/2017, 6:58:22 AM12 votes

Skarner's Crystal Spires shouldn't r̶e̶v̶e̶a̶l̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶c̶a̶p̶t̶u̶r̶e̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶'̶r̶e̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶v̶i̶s̶i̶b̶l̶e̶ have been forced into his kit to start with

There, Fixed it for you

SpecterVonBaren12/31/2017, 10:36:11 AM8 votes

Skarner's Crystal Spires shouldn't exist.

kattzkitti12/30/2017, 11:41:12 PM5 votes

Support. Stuff you can’t see happening, shouldn’t be seen happening.

LostFr0st12/30/2017, 11:44:26 PM2 votes

I wish. They've mentioned wanting to remove this before. Unfortunately he'll probably have to hit a meta/time where he's struggling in order to get the above.

General Esdeath 12/31/2017, 5:39:18 AM1 votes

Who?

deepfriedchicken12/31/2017, 4:26:05 PM1 votes

lets make temo shrooms invincible except wen u step on them

DracosKasu12/31/2017, 4:34:29 PM1 votes

they should do something similar to kindred jungle creep not reveal his capture until you see it woth regular vision.

Pinkaj1/1/2018, 6:26:42 AM1 votes

I agree that it's weird, but at the same time I think they'll leave it like that. It's only a movement buff that ONLY applies to Skarner, and gives a burst of vision. It's tougher than Kindred's marks, where they buff her attack range and stuff, even though it takes a while to disappear after they've been taken.

DariusDemiurge12/31/2017, 12:48:47 AM1 votes

Agreed, it is only common sense that it should work as you described.

Cloud27312/31/2017, 1:56:31 AM1 votes

It's an objective that's on the map. When an objective is killed or destroyed everyone knows about it. Skarner's crystal spires should be no different.

Z3Sleeper12/31/2017, 4:11:46 AM1 votes

I mean, there's a huuuge radius around them. "Getting vision on it" would mean simply being able to see the radius of its effect (whether the big circle is red or blue).

Wouldn't change too much and a single ward anywhere in the spire's radius would still show the enemy that the spire has been taken.

VoraciousX12/31/2017, 4:46:25 AM1 votes

So are you saying this should work the same way for Reksai? Because it's the exact same to her. That bonus move speed and attack speed is also huge. They probably wouldn't even be able to get to you even with it showing up just because of how fast you can attack and move.