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Shaco is now total garbage, here's why

Velkozito·4/12/2017, 12:55:29 PM·4 votes·3,212 views

So let me get this straight.

=> Shaco is a good ganker :

  • he used to have 3,5 seconds of invisibility and 11 seconds of cooldown on his Q Now he has 1,5 seconds of invisibility and 16 seconds of cooldown on his Q in earlygame

=> Shaco is a good assassin :

  • the q spell : he used to crit for 220% of his ad. From behind, you multiply that by 1,2 and you get 264%, which means a 1,64 AD bonus damage. Now, you get no bonus damage at all from the q spell alone. From behind, you get 0,3 AD bonus damage.

  • the e spell : he used to deal 210(+1 AD) damage. From behind, 252(+1,2 AD) damage. Now, it deals 211+0,75 AD + 8% of target's missing health

  • the autos : he used to deal +20% bonus damage when attacking from behind (on-hit effects were also raised), on every single auto from behind. Now, he gets 0,3 AD bonus damage every 3 seconds.

SO, the damage of a total burst of Q spell + auto + E spell used to be : 252 (+2,64+1,2+1,2=5,04 AD) Now, the damage of a total burst of Q spell + auto + E spell is : 211(+1,3+0,75+1=3,05 AD)+8% of target's missing health

So we had a burst of 5,04 AD, now we get a burst of 3,05 AD. Any other AD jungler deals at the very least 2,00 AD with two autos (No sh!t Sherlock), and still has his spells to deal more damage.

Look at Shaco these days. He deals so few damage that people are building sunfire cape on him. He's my main, and I just can't play him anymore.

Now, I know people generally don't like Shaco. But remember that if Shaco can be played by one of your oponents, he can also be played by one of your allies. Do you want him to be useless ? So please upvote and show Riot they have made a mistake with Shaco. Honestly if they made him rexactly like he was before the assassins update, it would be perfect (remember, he was stronger but not broken).

EDIT : It must be understood that this post aims at proving that Shaco is no longer a good assassin, and thats why people are building him like a bruiser. Now his ganks are less good in earlygame, so people farm in the jungle and get sunfire cape, in my opinion that's not the way to play Shaco. His winrate isn't horrible now, but the real question here is : is he fun to play ?

20 Comments

dunder kill4/12/2017, 1:02:49 PM4 votes

I'd be more willing to listen if Shaco players hadn't been saying this since preseason.

Now I just completely ignore anyone claiming "Shaco is gutted" by default.

FlyingRoboticCow4/12/2017, 1:05:20 PM2 votes

As another shako lover I somewhat agree with you however his q needed some form of change because lets be honest here its a low cd invisible flash and that just as a concept is something that shouldn't have been allowed. I think they made a mistake and took away the damage instead of the mobility if they let him keep the damage and the invisibility(increase the duration a bit) but remove the flash I think it would be better and more balanced than what we have now.

Hethalean4/12/2017, 1:06:52 PM2 votes

Yeah it must suck to no longer have a 55% win rate and a measely 51% instead while being demoted from 2nd best jungler to 8th. GAH, might as well just delete this champ. So gutted. So useless. It's a surprise you can even win with it. lol

WarHero544/13/2017, 2:08:54 AM2 votes

Can RIOT at least make boxes proc items like Liandrys and Morellonomicon and mastery like Thunderlord's at least on the first time the box hits the champion? Now that we lost Q damage there is no point for an AP shaco to buy spell applied items, because only E and Shaco's clone explosion will proc it. With this new nerf it kills AP shaco's late game badly (especially if most of the enemy team is bruiser/tanky). I've been an AP Shaco main since season 2 and I wouldn't mind them rolling him back to before the assassin remake.

Jbels4/12/2017, 1:01:51 PM1 votes

I just find it weird that people were doing Lethality builds on him when he does mostly magic damage from abilities