Jhin is ez freelo, but no one is talking about this nusiance?

serenity7·2/16/2017, 2:00:17 PM·8 votes·1,892 views

tbh, i can't stand this champion. but since people are starting to catch on and banning jhin, so ive been seeing this clown more often, and i tried playing her a few time. the lethality buffs have made her much more annoying than usual. its really her Q that seems overpowered because once she gets she does like 50% of your health or more with one Q point and click. her passive ms with ghostblade active makes it so easy to hit your slow, then spray them down while ignoring most of their armor. mf always seems to slip under the radar when she's strong. is she just not as popular? because i think she needs rebalancing more than the other adcs people are complaining about.

Update: Meddler responded to my comment about this! http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/NxMaaYvf-quick-gameplay-thoughts-feb-16?comment=000300000000

23 Comments

DJ Lucio2/16/2017, 2:20:07 PM5 votes

Jhin's more more easily counterable meanwhile MF has her W for MS, her Q to half health you, and her E to slow you from chasing her. Alongside those, she has an ult that shreds armor and can easily wipe a team if used correctly, but Jhin definitely needs "hard nerfs" when it's just how he itemizes, same with her tho

With what people say about Jhin, we should gut MF too.

Nursing2/16/2017, 2:08:25 PM4 votes

Mf doesn't attack you from a long range like Jhin does either, nor does she have a snare.

MissingKayo2/16/2017, 2:01:17 PM3 votes

Jhin QQ's only coming from idiots anyways. Why pay them any attention?

Oleandervine2/16/2017, 6:22:45 PM3 votes

Guys, stop. You're calling for specified champion witch hunts, when the problems lie in the itemization and stat abuse. Lethality is a major problem, and it's breaking a lot of AD champs.

Nerfing champions on response to them abusing a stat or item makes those champions dependent on that stat or item, and it ends up limiting their build path if the are balanced to be at peak performance with that item. This means if that item or stay changes or gets dropped, the champion becomes an invalid, and this isn't a healthy approach to balance.

Champions should be able to stand on their own, and only in the most extreme cases should they be balanced around items. In the case of Lethality, it's an across the board problem, and nerfing champs who abuse it best will cause problems when Lethality does get its own nerfs further down the line.

DarianEX2/16/2017, 3:59:50 PM2 votes

Point is MF 1 Q Does half someones hp lvl 4 (first back) Thats legit. :T while jhin has to wait to the 4shot to even do half of that. Mf has a nasty slow thats not a skill shot and jhin has a skill shot for his snare. her w speeds her up an makes her attack faster. Jhin has 4 bullets xD. Also her ult can melt 0-100 easy. :T ye i hate mf I prefer facing jhin in lane rather than mf xD

Pupel2/16/2017, 3:30:10 PM2 votes

Personaly I feel ADC is working as intended right now. They are squishy champs that do a lot of sustained damage. not sure why everyone is complaining

Nahui2/16/2017, 3:50:40 PM2 votes

Her problem is that she's sort of like Varus. Overall nothing too special, but she has one ability that she can spam that, should you get hit with it, puts you significantly behind more and more every time it hits. She has a massive AD nuke that now scales off of lethality. The difference ebtween her and Varus is Varus needs to charge it and you have time to prepare. MF has this wonky ability that is instacast and can curve in odd ways that aren't as linearly predictable as someone like Varus. Furthermore, it's mechanic of dealing more damage after bounce makes the laning phase tricky bot lane, as the ADC needs to stay behind a creep line to be safe from supports, namely the current meta supports. This gives MF a cheap, easy, quick way to inflict damage that you really can't fight back against unless she's really close. But, the average Q is at max range on a minion and it will bounce back even further and deal colossal damage.

It's honestly worse for the supports than the ADCs of bot because ADCs have built in life steal usually.

Edit: "she's strong. is she just not as popular? because i think she needs rebalancing more than the other adcs people are complaining about." Idk how this got in my post, I had my mouse on in my backpack and I think I moved it and somehow dragged another person's post into my post. Ignore this sentence entirely, it's not mine.

woodvsmurph2/16/2017, 6:21:55 PM2 votes

I enjoy when the enemy picks jhin, i dread when they pick mf. Jhin? I can either ignore his damage by building one armor item early and deleting him with item 3071 . Mf? Even if I flash stun her, her ult still got channeled halfway and leaves me at like 40%hp by the time i get to her. Personally, mf is the only adc I would ever ban... unless my adc wants to pick jhin and the enemy has a ton of burst cc to dive our backline. Like malphite, vi, plus another diver who can delete squishies... picking jhin there is just suicide so I ban jhin then.

NekoniClaws2/16/2017, 6:15:28 PM1 votes

I think people are just sick of seeing Jhin, because he's POPULAR, more than he is strong.

Also, from my perspective (as a support main) Miss Fortune is a HUGE. Pain. It's absolutely true that you can't bodyblock MF's attacks.

I play Leona and Thresh who are the supports who're supposedely best at dealing with BOTH Jhin and Miss Fortune

So with Jhin I: Excecute: Bait it out if my ADC is too dumb to stay out of range Q: Don't have to do anything, it's easy to predict W: Bodyblock E: Detonate it safely R: Bodyblock - Every. Single. Shot. Tilts Jhin badly. Have plenty of time to get to him and disrupt his channel before he deals most of his damage. (His excecutes are useless on tanks.)

With MissFortune I: Q: Lantern E: Lantern, if it's off cooldown R: Again with the Lantern. Need 1 second (at best) that I don't have to interupt her channel, and by then most damage is done.

So I've taken to banning MF.

Athenes Lulu2/16/2017, 7:34:37 PM1 votes

I'm more worried about the fact that ranged carries can build lethality items because lethality heavily outshines crit builds right now.

It should be either halved stats for ranged, or just make those items melee only.

SpookyNeedle2/17/2017, 5:28:21 AM1 votes

IMO Varus < Jhin < MissFortune