I wish Banner of Command could be switched around so it's not just a Magic-Comp killer

Bodabott·4/27/2018, 6:48:44 PM·104 votes·17,625 views

Like wouldn't it be more fair to change its stats so the minion it buffs just takes 50% reduced damage from all sources instead of complete magic immunity?

Make it so you have a way of actually inconveniencing any kind of enemy by buffing a side wave instead of buffing a minion up only to watch a [insert ADC] or [Insert abuser] obliterate the entire thing without a single hassle and continue on roaming casually.

Definitely seems more fair too considering how the item itself is a toxic mechanic that works solely around removing a player's ability to interact with its targets just because they're locked behind magic damage.

39 Comments

MakishiEFB4/27/2018, 7:03:58 PM33 votes

Would definitely open it up for more use, and it even makes better sense for the item considering Riot put armor on it with item 2053 .

Let it just be a dedicated splitting item that EVERYONE has to work a little harder to clear instead of just shafting Magic comps for no legitimate reason at all.

Ok sure but why4/27/2018, 7:36:01 PM21 votes

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Why can't mages kill it with magic damage, but ADC's can kill it with ?

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

But yea, I agree, especially since they're gonna be cucking the Mages' abilities to wave clear

Verxint4/27/2018, 11:35:28 PM7 votes

Banner minion should get extra damage reduction based on your resistances

AquariusGine4/27/2018, 8:46:17 PM6 votes

Riot hate mages.

Resolution4/27/2018, 8:49:28 PM5 votes

...because ADC's have to be better at everything - can't have them not being able to destroy everything with ease. Sorry magic users, but once again you get the short end of the stick ;).

Ultîma4/27/2018, 8:02:44 PM4 votes

This. Honestly this is just one of the many things that forces the prevalence of ADCs in the game.

The Bearded Bard4/27/2018, 8:05:34 PM4 votes

PLEASE. I can't tell you how many times I'm clearing a wave as a mage and then I see that invincible pos waddling down the lane.

They're so smug I hate it

Ifneth4/27/2018, 8:46:32 PM4 votes

It just feels bad to have no way to interact with the thing. You need someone with AD to remove it. 50% magic DR would be perfect.

The Yetii Rider4/28/2018, 12:13:42 AM3 votes

50% DR from all sources would be crazy. You realize that other minions and turrets don't deal magic damage, right? Banner is already strong when you use it to shove a side lane, this would make it better than Rift Herald.

TeCoolMage4/28/2018, 10:12:12 AM2 votes

duskblade is probably the worst item for waveclearing ever, even worse than tank items like frozen heart, which will at least give more CDR and let you tank the wave + use more abilities with the mana and armour.

I think banner of command should be used to buff a single minion to be actually powerful in a "commanding" sense (it IS a banner, so maybe it should have some sort of rally or gives the minion an aura), rather than buffing a single minion so it lives while the rest dies while screwing over mages.

50000000000000004/27/2018, 10:35:24 PM2 votes

Make a target minion carry a banner that gives baron buff to nearby minions.

It solves magic damage issue, there's clear counterplay, and it removes the baron-banner interaction that's pretty unhealthy.

YuGiHo4/27/2018, 8:19:13 PM2 votes

ad champs would still kill it fast because they have the luxury of consistent auto attack damage.

Eye Of Terror4/28/2018, 7:57:38 AM2 votes

Whoever designed this item is really biased towards AD.

I mean an item that completely shuts you down because you chose AP is quite unhealthy imo.

Hope it's more ok like that.

LibroMastro4/28/2018, 1:42:36 PM1 votes

yea lets make singed even more annoying

Elohaven4/28/2018, 2:43:18 PM1 votes

I would if it wasn't for the fact Baron is so easy to kill at 20 minutes with 2 people.

I can't support this if Baron is that easy.

Saianna4/28/2018, 5:25:38 PM1 votes

change its stats so the minion it buffs just takes 50% reduced damage from all sources

ADCs would still 1-hit kill it...

Mcsquzzy4/28/2018, 6:36:21 PM1 votes

can't do anything to hurt adc or assassins we currently buffing them silly

I Main Swain4/28/2018, 8:10:05 PM1 votes

the more i think about this the more i like the idea

BestPudgeNA4/27/2018, 10:32:55 PM1 votes

summoner 11

Supreme Senpai694/29/2018, 2:43:53 AM1 votes

I don't really understand this either to be honest. Split pushers are all AD. It's an older item so I get back then you chose a mage because mages were the ones who could waveclear. But... that's not really the case anymore. You could put this item mid lane and then siege mid, but now it's something you put top while you siege bot. Well, the one going to clear that is gonna be an AD split pusher.

LordGeovanni4/27/2018, 10:25:35 PM1 votes

large waves of minions that you can instantly wave clear then the 1-2 minions you can't have to slow push it... so unfair.

Silverjust4/28/2018, 12:05:00 AM1 votes

what if instead of making the targeted minion magic imune, they get 6(or more) ward health. It would make the cleartime more similar than it is right now

AR URF4/28/2018, 10:21:14 AM1 votes

I actually agree with this thread. Most cases it's just whining children, but you put up a good point. How about make it immune to certain types of cc though like syndra's grab thing?