Can we just talk about how toxic of a champion Ziggs is?

Astral Duck·Aug 6, 2014·2 votes·899 views

Long range AOE poke, Long range CC and semi global ulti that can clear a wave of 30+ minions? Why aren't you nerfing the crud out of him? There's zero counterplay to Ziggs outside of picking a champion that does poorly in teamfights. Ziggs has a terrifying laning phase, can roam without consequence and still be extremely relative in the late game? Not to mention he actually doesn't take alot of skill to play, I bought him just for fun a few weeks back and it was disgusting how easy he was to play for how much he can do so it's not like he has a high skill ceiling.

also before you start downvoting, have a discussion.

12 Comments

12talesAug 6, 20142 votes

Riot's been nerfing him, like, every patch. For weeks.

sociopath eboyAug 6, 20141 votes

his ult no longer has a reduced cooldown when you level it up so he cant use it for wave clear that often. he's squishy as hell and if you just get some mr everything will be fine.

darkdillAug 6, 20141 votes

Play Kat vs Ziggs and you'll destroy him.

Astral DuckAug 6, 20141 votes

Had a kat that fed him in lane and couldn't outroam him either. .-.

darkdillAug 6, 20141 votes

Then your Kat sucked and didn't know how to Shunpo-dodge.

Funky DuckyAug 6, 20141 votes

Talon Hi, I'm Talon. I'd like to meet you. Zed Hi, I'm Zed. I'd like to meet you. Yasuo Hi, I'm Yasuo. I'd like to meet you. Fizz Hi, I'm Fizz. I'd like to meet you. All champs that dominate Ziggs.

Astral DuckAug 6, 20141 votes

So, I'm forced to play high risk high reward champions? That's fun, except it's not.

Funky DuckyAug 8, 20141 votes

Not just them. There is a large roster. Also, in order to harass you, he shoves the lane. If he was as dominate as you say, his win rates would be much higher.

Astral DuckAug 9, 20141 votes

Do you know how many bronze/silver/gold scrubs try to imitate LCS and suck butt at it? It's literally impossible to count.

Funky DuckyAug 9, 20141 votes

If he was so broken, he would have higher win rates in LCS as well. Which he doesn't.

deadlychuckAug 6, 20141 votes

The main issue with Ziggs is that all he is doing is pushing the mobility creep in the game forward. He has all the aspects of a mid lane mage, but the he also gets an escape.

On top of that his passive is something a lot of mages would love to have, like actual ap scaling last hitting.

I think ziggs is to dominate as a mage, but he isn't to dominate as a champion. There are counters, but because of his insane power compared to other mages, assassins have been scaled up to the point of completely obliterating anyone who isn't Ziggs .