Thanks Riot for ruining Kayle!

Lyless·Sep 3, 2015·2 votes·2,480 views

Not she's so weak all she can do is Jungle. She can't top, she can't mid or support. Now I am down to two champs I like in this whole stupid game.

101 Comments

jjookkeerrSep 4, 201512 votes

it is simple, you are noob and dont know how to play and build kalye

tyt921Sep 8, 20153 votes

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it is simple, you are noob and dont know how to play and build kalye

Amen. The builds are horrible for Kayle let alone KAYLE SUPPORT LMAO! NO vision...NO utility for the team...You just dont know how to play. Just because you pwn bots doesnt mean those builds are legit man. Man I bet you are toxic too, because when people try to help you just ignore and think youre doing fine and that they are doing bad making you play bad. Thank god I dont have to deal with players like you.

PLEASE continue doing what you are doing, and break the meta.

Honestly, you make bronze look pretty bad. Some bronze are actually pretty decent players. Especially Bronve 2, 1. They are decent. You are a different story.

EndlessSorcererSep 3, 20158 votes

Need to improve your item builds and CSing if you are playing item-reliant champions such as Kayle. Otherwise you are wasting gold and/or getting items too late.

As it is, the items you are building don't really have much synergy and some aren't good choices for Kayle (i.e. Tiamat and Ravenous Hydra)

LylessSep 3, 20151 votes

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Need to improve your item builds and CSing if you are playing item-reliant champions such as Kayle. Otherwise you are wasting gold and/or getting items too late.

As it is, the items you are building don't really have much synergy and some aren't good choices for Kayle (i.e. Tiamat and Ravenous Hydra)

I am playing as support. I don't have the opition of getting items earlier.

EggstealerSep 3, 201511 votes

You're playing support with no support item or sightstone? that's why you're not getting any items. atleast use mobafire man

LylessSep 3, 20151 votes

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You're playing support with no support item or sightstone? that's why you're not getting any items. atleast use mobafire man

One less slot I have to do damage. No thanks.

Lord DusteonSep 4, 201511 votes

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One less slot I have to do damage. No thanks.

You know what's better than doing slightly more damage? Controlling vision and gaining increased gold in a lane you won't be CSing in. Or, building items that actually synergize A) with the champion you picked and B) with your other items. Kayle works better with AP than AD (QWE all scale with AP, and the AP on hit E is better than the AD), and even if you were going AD you would go full AD, not one AD item then multiple AP. As it is your builds do not work well with either the champion (she's an AP on hit, not a bruiser or tank) or the other items you take (Nashor's work well with more AP/pen/AS. Bloodthrister works with heavy AD and crit. Hydra works with MELEE AD champions).

EggstealerSep 4, 20156 votes

let not feed the troll man, @Lord Dusteon

LylessSep 8, 20151 votes

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let not feed the troll man, @Lord Dusteon

not a troll someone who cares far more than you.

HopFroggerSep 8, 20153 votes

You truly should not be playing support if you don't understand what it means to support an adc. Go into a solo lane and practice. Better yet, practice in bot games.

Thornmail and tiamat should never be bought by Kayle players; your item builds just exemplify that you have a lot to learn.

LylessSep 8, 20151 votes

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You truly should not be playing support if you don't understand what it means to support an adc. Go into a solo lane and practice. Better yet, practice in bot games.

Thornmail and tiamat should never be bought by Kayle players; your item builds just exemplify that you have a lot to learn.

I am not play support anymore. Can any of you actually read?

HopFroggerSep 8, 20154 votes

Then you might consider reading more about Kayle and how to play her. Kayle was played in the LCS and LPL several times this season, with success.

You have very weird itemization; try Nashor's into AP items, not AD items. Don't get a bloodthirster; don't get a hydra. Get a deathcap, etc.

But you'll probably think the world is wrong and leave me with a vengeful response. :P

LylessSep 8, 20151 votes

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Then you might consider reading more about Kayle and how to play her. Kayle was played in the LCS and LPL several times this season, with success.

You have very weird itemization; try Nashor's into AP items, not AD items. Don't get a bloodthirster; don't get a hydra. Get a deathcap, etc.

But you'll probably think the world is wrong and leave me with a vengeful response. :P

I don't want to play her. EVER! I don't give a damn who played her and when they did it. You still don't get it. I don't care about her. I wish I never brought her. She sucks!

HopFroggerSep 8, 20154 votes

You honestly sound like a kid who needs to take a break from the game. If you're this hostile on the forums, I can only imagine what you're like in-game.

LylessSep 8, 20151 votes

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You honestly sound like a kid who needs to take a break from the game. If you're this hostile on the forums, I can only imagine what you're like in-game.

Why in the hell wouldn't I be angry? I can't play this game without getting a troll or two every 2 out 5 games. Thus I can't move up. When I ask for in game I am told no. When I tell them what's happening it's blamed on me and they didn't even see the match or matches! The large majority of this is not my fault, but yeah these expert players who are lazy and had every advantage in the world call me bad at this game? No, I know for a fact with very little more practice I am better than 90% of people playing this damn game.

So, people like aren't better than me in any way, you are beneath me.

HopFroggerSep 8, 20153 votes

No. Everything you are doing (including the creation of this post) makes it more likely that you, my friend Lyless, are one of the trolls that deserves to remain in the depths. A better understanding of the game, its mechanics, and skill required for each champion will let you move up in rank. But -- most of all -- you need to work on your extraordinary arrogance in talking down to everyone who responded attempting to help you on your post. Until you do that....

...may you stay in Bronze V.

HopFroggerSep 8, 20154 votes

Challenge accepted.

I've created a 1v1 game draft mode.

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Spectators allowed.

HopFroggerSep 8, 20152 votes

I'm waiting in the game lobby.

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HopFroggerSep 8, 20152 votes

I hope everything is okay.

ZACKandATTACKSep 3, 20157 votes

Posting on a forum is asking for comments and discussion. Don't be so rude to people's opinions.

kokopelli2Sep 3, 20156 votes

Its simple... If you don't like the game, don't play...

LylessSep 3, 20152 votes

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Its simple... If you don't like the game, don't play...

How about you shut up? I didn't ask you to comment! SO be gone!

ZACKandATTACKSep 4, 20155 votes

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How about you shut up? I didn't ask you to comment! SO be gone!

This is what I am referring to. Posting on a forum is asking for a discussion to take place.

LylessSep 4, 20151 votes

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This is what I am referring to. Posting on a forum is asking for a discussion to take place.

Bashing isn't a discussion.

ZACKandATTACKSep 4, 20153 votes

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Bashing isn't a discussion.

He gave his opinion that if you do not like the game, then you shouldn't play it. If I don't like to play lets say soccer or futbol, then I would not play the game. So instead of complaining just don't play.

LylessSep 4, 20151 votes

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He gave his opinion that if you do not like the game, then you shouldn't play it. If I don't like to play lets say soccer or futbol, then I would not play the game. So instead of complaining just don't play.

I don't quit things. You guys act like I have never used Kayle before. She is much weaker than she's been ever.

Lord DusteonSep 4, 20154 votes

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I don't quit things. You guys act like I have never used Kayle before. She is much weaker than she's been ever.

If you compare her to on release Kayle, then yes, probably (but on release Morgana also had what, a 5 second snare on Q with 400+ damage?). If you mean anytime recently, Kayle is literally the strongest she has been in a while because of Sated Devourer. She can still top/mid well (minus 5 AD annoys her but isn't crippling), and support/adc Kayle are as strong as they have been (which is to say they exist but are eh). And Jungle Kayle is currently utterly great from how amazing Sated is with E.

I think the problem is not Kayle. It is more you do not know how to build or play with a team and do not seem to want to learn.

CreationFlawSep 4, 20153 votes

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If you compare her to on release Kayle, then yes, probably (but on release Morgana also had what, a 5 second snare on Q with 400+ damage?). If you mean anytime recently, Kayle is literally the strongest she has been in a while because of Sated Devourer. She can still top/mid well (minus 5 AD annoys her but isn't crippling), and support/adc Kayle are as strong as they have been (which is to say they exist but are eh). And Jungle Kayle is currently utterly great from how amazing Sated is with E.

I think the problem is not Kayle. It is more you do not know how to build or play with a team and do not seem to want to learn.

I mean her Q still has .9 AP scaling.

LylessSep 4, 20151 votes

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I mean her Q still has .9 AP scaling.

doesn't matter. She isn't the same. So, I am done with her.

kokopelli2Sep 7, 20153 votes

If you are "so done with her" then don't play her.

Surr20plzSep 9, 20151 votes

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He gave his opinion that if you do not like the game, then you shouldn't play it. If I don't like to play lets say soccer or futbol, then I would not play the game. So instead of complaining just don't play.

While that is an opinion it is also an asinine thing to say. That guy should "be gone" as OP put it.

MiraweaveSep 8, 20155 votes

OP is bronze 5 and builds Tiamat on kayle.

Op's opinion is worthless.

LylessSep 8, 20151 votes

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OP is bronze 5 and builds Tiamat on kayle.

Op's opinion is worthless.

Your opinion doesn't matter in life! Since you can't read!

MiraweaveSep 8, 20155 votes

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Your opinion doesn't matter in life! Since you can't read!

I can read fine. You're trying to complain that one of the strongest champions in the game is underpowered, and you're bronze 5. Git gud.

LylessSep 8, 20151 votes

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I can read fine. You're trying to complain that one of the strongest champions in the game is underpowered, and you're bronze 5. Git gud.

she's isn't one of the strongest champs, that's your damn opinion jackass. And you can't and couldn't deal with all of 3vs 5 crap I have to deal with at Bronze 5. But you are better than me, I think not. No you have a full team, I don't. You have team that know what they are doing, I don't. That's the difference.

BeatzBoyFTWSep 8, 20153 votes

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she's isn't one of the strongest champs, that's your damn opinion jackass. And you can't and couldn't deal with all of 3vs 5 crap I have to deal with at Bronze 5. But you are better than me, I think not. No you have a full team, I don't. You have team that know what they are doing, I don't. That's the difference.

You have a 3v5 teamfight, and you still built item 3077 on Kayle thinking it's a billion dollar item specially made for her. You yourself was the one who doesn't even know what you're doing. Therefore, you were also part of the blame for the losses of matches.

LylessSep 8, 20151 votes

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You have a 3v5 teamfight, and you still built on Kayle thinking it's a billion dollar item specially made for her. You yourself was the one who doesn't even know what you're doing. Therefore, you were also part of the blame for the losses of matches.

It doesn't matter anymore because I am not using her. I don't care. F Kayle!

BeatzBoyFTWSep 8, 20154 votes

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It doesn't matter anymore because I am not using her. I don't care. F Kayle!

First Kayle, Then Urgot. Finally, you changed to Warwick as I heard.

This is the one reason why you're still stuck in Bronze 5. You're too stubborn & selfish in knowing how to play certain champions better. Evidence? Your behavior in Boards & the non-determination to ask for tips weighs heavily on my facts. Not even sure what are you even trying to accomplish in Lol anyway, as all you do is run your mouth from time to time.

LylessSep 8, 20151 votes

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First Kayle, Then Urgot. Finally, you changed to Warwick as I heard.

This is the one reason why you're still stuck in Bronze 5. You're too stubborn & selfish in knowing how to play certain champions better. Evidence? Your behavior in Boards & the non-determination to ask for tips weighs heavily on my facts. Not even sure what are you even trying to accomplish in Lol anyway, as all you do is run your mouth from time to time.

Urgot only works in certain stiuations. Kayle is done! Warwick is decent. I like him.

I can't get in game help, so, I will just vent on these boards. Nothing but the truth!

BeatzBoyFTWSep 8, 20153 votes

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Urgot only works in certain stiuations. Kayle is done! Warwick is decent. I like him.

I can't get in game help, so, I will just vent on these boards. Nothing but the truth!

No, you don't want help. You never even intended to ask for help. There were tons who tried to preach you, yet you just brush them off & replies back with words that always ends with a crybaby "!" & then makes nonsense about how high elos don't help new/low elo players.

I mean, come on. Look at all of your threads. About 0% of them are about requesting tips for certain champions. And do note that a lot of people don't have time to answer your questions in-game when they have their own role to attend to. You should have come prepared with some basic knowledge before committing to a 20+ minute game with 4 other people who were prepared to win it.

But again, I'm sure you'll be illiterate as ever as I assume you're not going to read a 5+ paragraph lines & then answers be back with the same old stubborn "I told u I stop playing Kayle, so stfu".

WarlockLawSep 8, 20153 votes

Holy shit I didn't think ppl could have under 100 mmr calculated by op.gg

Ad hominem aside kayle is still strong mid (54% winrate) and relevant top lane (48% winrate). Practice her more or get over the changes

LylessSep 8, 20151 votes

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Holy shit I didn't think ppl could have under 100 mmr calculated by op.gg

Ad hominem aside kayle is still strong mid (54% winrate) and relevant top lane (48% winrate). Practice her more or get over the changes

I am not using the her anymore, if their was a way I could sell her I would. I would rather use Yorick than her ever again and I hate Yorick!

insaiyanbaccaSep 9, 20151 votes

except yorick is stupid strong vs like 95% of top lane :P

LylessSep 9, 20151 votes

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except yorick is stupid strong vs like 95% of top lane :P

Yorick needs a re-work that ult isn't good

ToonspikeSep 8, 20151 votes

damn that game was sad to watch

LylessSep 8, 20151 votes

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damn that game was sad to watch

This is what the assholes do. Keep the lower players down.

HopFroggerSep 9, 20153 votes

Not only did you challenge me, but I gave you lots of tips. You ignored them, raged at me about how no one helps you, and then played the victim some more. You are not amenable to advice, as you insult those who attempt to help you and instead continuously solicit pity.

You rage-quit our match after losing violently within 6 minutes. You ignored advice (from lots of people), and are doomed to remain in Bronze V until you get over your arrogance. You are your own problem.

Stray KatSep 9, 20151 votes

I main Kayle, and I manage to play her just fine. I honestly don't even notice the changes that they made to her. Though, I do sometimes use a 30-0-0 mastery page for her, with some extra AD in it, so that made up for the AD they took out.

LylessSep 9, 20151 votes

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I main Kayle, and I manage to play her just fine. I honestly don't even notice the changes that they made to her. Though, I do sometimes use a 30-0-0 mastery page for her, with some extra AD in it, so that made up for the AD they took out.

that's you! She isn't for everyone. WHy can't you get that?!?!?

Stray KatSep 9, 20153 votes