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It's not ADCs, it's you

i cant move wtf··11 votes·913 views

Don't care if this gets downvoted. Every time I op.gg the op of a 'nerf ADC' post I see they're a silver top laner, assassin or support.

Guess what. If you got one-shot by an ADC it's your own fault. If you're any of the roles mentioned above then you have ample CC, mobility and/or tankiness to escape or even outplay in some cases. You died because you're bad and either got stomped in lane and deserved to be one shot, or you didn't react fast enough and/or missed/misused all of your abilities. It's not the game, it's you.

The only champion I'll relent on is Twitch. He is definitely over-tuned and needs something to balance him, but he's not completely broken to the point where there's no counterplay. Players that adapt can overcome the small extra advantage he brings.

The whining about ADCs on these boards is cartoonish at this point. There's no semblance of reality left. No one cares about your ramp-up damage ADC redesign, or making it so all marksman can only use 75% AD on all items, Riot least of all. Stop trying to justify your stubbornness to improve at the game by blaming an entire class of champions. It's not ADCs, it's you.

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Infernape10 votes

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"Just dodge the auto man"

i cant move wtf2 votes

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"Just dodge the auto man"

In this scenario are you just standing in their AA range? Not sure if you know this but you can stand outside of it and wait until some CC or poke lands on them before you go in.

Eedat5 votes

There are other forms of counterplay outside of avoiding the damage if you get in range. By your logic Annie has no counterplay Akali has no counterplay. Alistar Evelynn Fiddlesticks Irelia Jax Kassadin Kayle Malzahar and many, many more have no counterplay since they can point and click damage/CC onto you right? Thats your logic correct?

Good job proving the point of this thread through. Just a bunch of garbage points thrown together for a circlejerk.

Penns3 votes

yee

because they dont have the "counterplay" people usually talk about hehe

Best princess EU1 votes

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By your logic Annie has no counterplay Akali has no counterplay. Alistar Evelynn Fiddlesticks Irelia Jax Kassadin Kayle Malzahar and many, many more have no counterplay since they can point and click damage/CC onto you right? Thats your logic correct?

Yes

all outdated af

Rainfall2 votes

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"Just dodge the auto man"

before that combo,players used to stop at 50% crit chance(infinity edge+zeal upgrade) and build more damage. So ADCs were more relying on chance and RNG.Which is what the community deliberately asked to stop.

Infernape3 votes

I personally think (as someone that frequently plays ADC) crit needs to be reworked. RNG damage doesn't belong in the game. It's absolutely shit losing a trade because the enemy ADC with the same items you have got two lucky crits in a row while you didn't.

i cant move wtf1 votes

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I personally think (as someone that frequently plays ADC) crit needs to be reworked. RNG damage doesn't belong in the game. It's absolutely shit losing a trade because the enemy ADC with the same items you have got two lucky crits in a row while you didn't.

Except it functions exactly as "increased damage over time" which is what the class is designed around. If you have to rely on a 30% chance to crit in order to win a duel then you already misplayed and will most likely lose.

sit kid1 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTXJkYiekmw

Misplay, yeah

As long as crit isnt 0% or 100% it is BS

Penns9 votes

outplay an ADC

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you died because you're bad

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Best princess EU1 votes

wtf pennssssssssssss

since when u post gifs u so cool bro teach me

Penns1 votes

it cant be taught, you have to be born like this hehe

HalcyonDweller5 votes

'Everyone who disagrees with me is low elo garbage who doesn't know what they are talking about.'

Ok, got it. Very persuasive argument. Good job!

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

i cant move wtf3 votes

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Ok, got it. Very persuasive argument. Good job!

The fact that there's mains of all roles in all elos proves ADC isn't overpowered, otherwise there would only be high elo ADC mains.

SwiftKitten883 votes

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The fact that there's mains of all roles in all elos proves ADC isn't overpowered, otherwise there would only be high elo ADC mains.

right because i have mained nidalee since season 3 shows that adc instead not Op, but instead completely irrelevant. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

people main who they like... i played nidalee when she was a 38% win rate tied for 10th the worst winrate in the HISTORY OF LEAGUE.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

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The fact that there's mains of all roles in all elos proves ADC isn't overpowered, otherwise there would only be high elo ADC mains.

Such argue, very logic. Wow.

That was completely unrelated and besides the point. If anything it disproves your own argument.

Main = plays a champion consistently regardless of patch or strength.

Flavor of the Month (FOTM) = plays whatever is strongest each patch.

Eedat1 votes

It appears you dont know what quotation marks are

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Fixed.

Dasdi965 votes

No we are just sick of botlane having 99.9% impact.

i cant move wtf1 votes

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No we are just sick of botlane having 99.9% impact.

It's a tower defense game. How can you make a class designed to deal the most damage unimportant? And last I checked a comp of 5 ADCs isn't optimal.

MarvelOtter1 votes

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It's a tower defense game. How can you make a class designed to deal the most damage unimportant? And last I checked a comp of 5 ADCs isn't optimal.

no, but having been in a game against 3 adcs(jungle, mid and bot) with ap sup and tank top...theres a reason why people complain about them, its just that no one does it.

i cant move wtf1 votes

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no, but having been in a game against 3 adcs(jungle, mid and bot) with ap sup and tank top...theres a reason why people complain about them, its just that no one does it.

Everyone on your team can build tabis and your mage armor AP items. Tanks can stack full armor. How did you not win that game?

MarvelOtter1 votes

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Everyone on your team can build tabis and your mage armor AP items. Tanks can stack full armor. How did you not win that game?

black cleaver garen, lethality quinn, and a nami ult can take a huge chunk of health with her ult if you dont have mr.

Subject 54 votes

I can't tell if this guy is legitimate or if he's just got an ego the size of Kanye.

-Looks the guy up-

He doesn't even have a ranked status, and is being an elitist. There is just so much wrong that It's hard to even debate it because we all know he's just going to say he's right and we're all wrong.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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I can't tell if this guy is legitimate or if he's just got an ego the size of Kanye.

-Looks the guy up-

He doesn't even have a ranked status, and is being an elitist. There is just so much wrong that It's hard to even debate it because we all know he's just going to say he's right and we're all wrong.

I'm more concerned about the fact that there are 8 people here as dumb as he is..

FireDrizzle2 votes

Adc items dont have to be near this good for adcs to be played on both teams, everygame. Warlords is strong enough adcs don't need to sacrifice a bit of damage on lifesteal. Its fact that adcs are overpowered now.

Rainfall2 votes

i would have no issues with the adc role if they were not accompanied by a cancerous support every single game,im pretty sure everyone who plays assasins feels like drinking 2 liters of bleach everytime the enemy support locks in lulu or janna.The problem is not adcs but botlane, the bias in the boards is just too strong on the issue,the boards have been hating the adc role for centuries now. Where did leona go where did thresh go? where did ap supports go? all of you are complaining about how the support role is shackled to the adc,but initiating supports and ap supports always had both team oriented and solo effort playstyles. Enhancers Need the botlane. The botlane does not need enhancers.

JackMcSnipeyz1 votes

"UGH but adc just right click they are so ez"

i cant move wtf1 votes

Garen "All ADCs do is right click. No skill." Zed "Ikr? I'd like to see them land shurkens the same width as their body..." Nasus "Wtf? They item 3140 'd my wither and I couldn't kill them with 4 Qs? I have 59 stacks!!" Talon "They flashed out of the second hit of my blades so I ulted and they took a thresh lantern to safety. This shit is broken."

Best princess EU1 votes

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Don't care if this gets downvoted. Every time I op.gg the op of a 'nerf ADC' post I see they're a silver top laner, assassin or support.

meanwhile imqt scarra and basically all high elo streamers claim this meta to be bullshit

but ok xddd

Paladin 0f Life1 votes

^article is true. People are afraid of what they dont understand. The problem isnt adc it is ardent item 3504 . If you think otherwise then you need to learn more about the game and how to teamfight.

Titanium701 votes

Whole game revolves around ADC from minute 1. Games are unplaybale without ADC. Mid focuses to carry Bot. Top focuses to carry Bot. JGL focuses to carry Bot (or help mid to carry bot).

Yep - everythings completely fine and balanced. lol...

Sure a role-unbalance is something you can let slight for while since what ever role it is is usually found in both teams balacnign things out. Especially in ADCs case since they dont have ANY role-compedition on Bot. (unlike Tanks, Asassins etc.)

But if you really think ADCs current state is fine you're the one in need of a reality check!

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