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new support items need buffs

Doopliss7·11/20/2019, 9:37:12 PM·34 votes·11,173 views

So i've been trying out non-meta supports with the new support items in bot games, and i have some issues with them so far. they're just waaay too weak and frustrating to use, to the point where i feel like its better to just sell it once you're out of laning phase/when it fully upgrades. the changes i'd like to see to all these support items would be like so:

  1. item 3864 change to 45 ad 150Hp once fully upgraded

  2. item 3858 &item 3855 give them health regen and or the healing on minion execute proc back, perhaps add a weaker version of doran shields passive but on full upgrade it has dorans shield passive fully item 1054 .

  3. remove the diminishing gold on excess minion kills once fully upgraded. <- this is what i hate the most on the new items, it punishes you for taking minion while your adc is back at base or even when laning phase is done. it just makes me want to sell the item since its just crippling me at tht point. either completely remove this from the fully upgraded support items, or at the very least have it turn off if there are no ally champions nearby to take those minions themselves.

if the worry from rito is having solo laners abuse these support items, rather than gimping the gold it makes, why not just reduce the damage you deal to minions by 20% or 30% until its fully upgraded. this will make stealing minons from your adc by mistake or taking it solo lane much more difficult since you wont be able to farm properly with the reduced damage you deal to them.

22 Comments

Death by Glamour11/20/2019, 9:59:01 PM10 votes

Likely an unpopular opinion but tbf you get these items for 400g and time investment you no longer need to purchase the upgrades which allows you to go directly into items which will give you the stats that you will need for your given champion.

CaptainAntiHeroz11/20/2019, 9:43:49 PM7 votes

Yesssssssss constructive criticism in the form of good ideas, I like this

Ηuawei11/20/2019, 11:01:36 PM5 votes

I dont agree with your propositions for the changes but i agree with the premise

Nea10411/20/2019, 10:56:42 PM4 votes

They are simply another misconception of the whole subject. After Pyke, this role is just dying and getting replaced by... something else, and very depressing.

Ventira11/20/2019, 9:43:02 PM3 votes

the diminishing gold only applies if you get 20 cs in 5 mins, if your laner is missing that much cs there's a bigger issue.|

They do really need a fuckign buff, especialyl the "defensive" options.

TonyTonyMordecai11/21/2019, 6:40:58 AM2 votes

I agree with number 3 (though that might be because I've been rocking the off-meta supports too, next to Senna), farming or helping clear waves (sometimes when alone) feels like a punishment But they could fix this by leaving the gold income passive even when it's fully upgraded so you don't feel bad about stealing minions from the rest of your team who probably need the gold more.

Nipsahoy11/21/2019, 9:00:34 PM1 votes

Support definitely does not need buffs. They don't have to spend gold to upgrade the item anymore so they build full dmg even sooner than normal. Just played a game where a Soraka was healing people to full with two abilities while taking half the ADCs hp with two abilities. Lameo design.