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Punish AFKs harder ESPECIALLY in Ranked, 75% LP loss from all teammates should be put on the AFK

NoxianShrooms·10/10/2017, 2:11:17 AM·55 votes·1,507 views

Just lost an easy game because our support DCed at level 5 and didn't come back for the entirety of the 30 minute match. You'd think she'd get some kind of punishment for that...

But no, no, that's fine with your system isn't it? We all lose even LP, some of us even lose Promos and meanwhile she'll just get a 5 minute leaver-buster then slip through the cracks to do this to someone else because you won't deem it worthy to actually sit down and do anything to really punish people like this.

So, here's an idea:

#Make is so 75% of the LP loss from ALL OTHER TEAMMATES is removed and transferred to the AFK's

Try doing something with it for once instead of giving us your usual: "Well you have to understand that we have no logic to refute the fact that this would make Ranked a much happier and healthier place by giving steep punishments to AFKs and relieving their burdened teammates, but alas... well you see we have hamsters powering our computers and it'd be too hard to code that into our system."

39 Comments

Kovorix10/10/2017, 11:53:17 AM10 votes

And I bet you are the first one that comes running into the forum when your isp dropped the connection for whatever reason "it wasn't my faul why do I lose so much LP".

Auroramancer10/10/2017, 8:19:44 PM7 votes

No.

Riot has no way of distinguishing AFKs from DCs. I had a game today where I DC'd during a ranked game. I was 4/1/16 and leading my team to victory, and my internet took a shit. I had already played 3 games prior to it without connection issues, so it's not like I was "testing my connection" with a first game for the day. My router and modem also showed all positive for an internet connection, and wouldn't re-establish connection after I reset everything so that I could get back into the game.

My internet came back up and I found out my team won without me, but very shortly after I DC'd. I was only DC'd for 3 minutes before my team won, and I actually LOST LP for the victory, because I was marked as a leaver, even though I had such a huge impact on the game leading up to that.

Now, if my team had lost, it wouldn't be fair for me to lose 70 LP (4 wins worth) just because my internet took a shit in a very isolated, inconsistent event.

If Riot had a way to differentiate AFKs from DCs, then I'd be all for your idea. But because they can't, no way.

Juggernaut62810/10/2017, 2:44:23 AM5 votes

I personally think that's a bit steep, simply for situations that are out of a player's control, but something to relieve the burden off of the people who don't afk should've been implemented years ago. You should not lose full LP for a game where your team has an afk.

Beitoka10/10/2017, 2:57:53 AM5 votes

A streamer could have a backlog of crew members in their army with smurf accounts at the same elo ready to take the hit for the convenience of the streamer, and/or people might claim to be willing to buy someone a skin if they afk for them. Either option would be very rare, but I gotta plan ahead and start streaming if rito puts anything like this in the game in order to abuse it for personal gain

ARAM ZooKeeper10/10/2017, 4:01:10 PM3 votes

As harsh as it sounds, it is really the responsibility of the player to make sure their computer/internet is up for the task of playing ranked. Whether they have technical issues or rage quit, it should be harshly enforced

Starcraft243ver10/10/2017, 4:52:25 PM3 votes

You should understand that Lps are worth nothing. It's just fancy stuff.

Your matchmaking is not decided by your current lps or division, but by your mmr only, which is not tied to your lps.

So what you proposed would achieve ... nothing.

koshkyra10/11/2017, 1:57:24 AM2 votes

75% is a little too much though

It should be 50% of the teams LP loss.

Oh and the enemy team should only get like 50% of the LP they would normally earn, idk why we should reward people for winning a 4v5

XDDD10/10/2017, 6:58:02 PM2 votes

Realize that this is just a knee-jerk reaction to a long-term problem. These guys often get leaverbustered (get a wait time) and lose LP on top of that. Just because they're the reason you lost doesn't mean they should lose additional LP.

If players who borderline intentionally feed don't lose extra LP for being the sole reason you lost, why should AFKs? Just because the system can identify them easily? And it doesn't even do this well. If somebody AFKs (gives up) in response to someone else AFKing, both of them get punished. If a team decides to open mid, then everyone gets punished. And if my net fails on me once, you want me to lose 80LP and get leaverbustered for 20min (5 games)?

DunkinNoobs10/11/2017, 6:34:39 AM2 votes

This playerbase would try to bully feeders into going afk if this was a thing. Riot has made it very clear: Any mechanic that makes players focus on something other than winning will never implemented. It's the same reason that LP gains and losses have no basis in individual performance and only in wins and losses.

Kloqdq10/10/2017, 8:15:26 PM2 votes

Shit happens. Sometimes, life makes you unable to play a game to it's fullest and you have to leave.

This is just how life works and because it happened once, it does not mean you should get shot. You have to realize that when someone AFKs and it is on purpose, they will do it more than once. If someone who almost never D/Cs does it once in a blue moon and it's just random, that does not mean they did it on purpose majority of the time. Someone who is purposely disconnecting will have a larger record of this and leave a LOT more games. Enforcing something like this and the many other suggestions people have given because of the knee-jerk reaction of having an AFK'er need to realize;

Life happens, you need to get over it.

Yoinked Your Ult10/11/2017, 10:31:10 AM1 votes

Just have the rest of the team get a loss prevented. Except the pre made.

La Belle Sauvage10/10/2017, 8:21:20 PM1 votes

Agree 100%

InfinitexMortal10/10/2017, 10:30:22 PM1 votes

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Just lost an easy game because our support DCed at level 5 and didn't come back for the entirety of the 30 minute match. You'd think she'd get some kind of punishment for that...

But no, no, that's fine with your system isn't it? We all lose even LP, some of us even lose Promos and meanwhile she'll just get a 5 minute leaver-buster then slip through the cracks to do this to someone else because you won't deem it worthy to actually sit down and do anything to really punish people like this.

So, here's an idea:

#Make is so 75% of the LP loss from ALL OTHER TEAMMATES is removed and transferred to the AFK's

Try doing something with it for once instead of giving us your usual: "Well you have to understand that we have no logic to refute the fact that this would make Ranked a much happier and healthier place by giving steep punishments to AFKs and relieving their burdened teammates, but alas... well you see we have hamsters powering our computers and it'd be too hard to code that into our system."

Its not that it would be "too hard" its that it doesnt make them money. And the new rito is all about that skin/ hextech $$$$$$

InfinitexMortal10/10/2017, 10:43:57 PM1 votes

Instead of giving them a 5 game 20 minute low priority queue wait you should simply make it so they can not play ranked for 5 games. This would keep people who afk constantly out of ranked making it less likely to get afkers in ranked.

I GANK LANES10/11/2017, 4:58:15 AM1 votes

Disagree. Power outages connection losses etc.