Few changes i think That may make pyke Less cancerr and stupid to deal with of champ.

Hi Its Scirocco··2 votes·1,289 views

To start with, I have no clue Why would designe team create such stupid overloaded kit like this Thats Bascly impossible to outplay, The Champ is so overloaded to this point he can dash into 5 ppl and Just walk away bc he's so mobile and impossible to catch While he also can exute me as janna From 70 % hp.

Lets Start with Passive: Just give him death dance passive where he take reduce damage from unit and nerf his tankness or something, All What ik is, he's current passive can not stay where he can dash to ur face, u spend 5 seconde trading with him and he just heal it all back suddenly,

His Q: Lets Start with making him not being able to move While charging his Q LIKE EVERY HOCK SUPP IN GAME. He has enough range already Why can he move While cast it Plus the hitbox on that ability is so dumb, Remove slow after it and just buff nock up duration to 1.5 seconde But u have to nerf it cd to 20 +seconde Like every hock champ in game.

His w: I never understand Why But When u cc pyke in his w It doesnt interrupt it, Make his w interrupted with cc So he doesnt just dash into ur face, eat all ur combos and then w away, at least give him some counter play

His E: Make it like veigar Q, meaning its not aoe stun, it only stuns First target hit and rest just slowed, nerf cast time on it So u be able to side set up, Either nerf range on his and make it Doesnt go throw walls or Just make range go higher as u rank up ability, The range on this ability is so high its insane make him near impossible To catch, mean While buff cc duration on it and give pyke shield When if he hit target But give it like 20 + seconde cd ...

His ult: Let Start with removing double coin thing on his ult ( Idk honesly Why it was added in begin with), Make Damage physicall, HIT THE HITBOX PLEASE, make it missing health Damage and not base damage So he doesnt exute Janna me from 70 % hp or do 800 true dmg to meXayah throw item 3046, Remove how it go throw shield mechanic So u can actualy shield the damage, ...

This changes may not be perfect But i personnaly believe They will remove huge toxicity of Pyke kit and some of the overloaded mechanic he has

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boricCentaur13 votes

Have you even played vs pyke? Like nothing you said made sense. Like "While he also can exute me as janna From 70 % hp." Pyke LATE GAME with a full ad build AT MOST HIS HLT WILL do 30% of a champions hp so that is a flat out lie,

"u spend 5 seconde trading with him and he just heal it all back suddenly," You let him get away that isn't suddenly and he doesn't heal it all back.

Like you clearly don't understand how pyke works and you sound like you haven't even seen a pyke and you just watch some highlight video of him then made a post.

Hi Its Scirocco1 votes

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Have you even played vs pyke? Like nothing you said made sense. Like "While he also can exute me as janna From 70 % hp." Pyke LATE GAME with a full ad build AT MOST HIS HLT WILL do 30% of a champions hp so that is a flat out lie,

"u spend 5 seconde trading with him and he just heal it all back suddenly," You let him get away that isn't suddenly and he doesn't heal it all back.

Like you clearly don't understand how pyke works and you sound like you haven't even seen a pyke and you just watch some highlight video of him then made a post.

rank 2 pyke ult with 2 lethality item is 800 true dmg, Thats near 60 % of janna health bar since she's so squichie. And true, i dont face pyke bc i perma bann that shitt since patch 9.5 where they gave him double coin buff doesnt mean The kite isnt obviously overloaded and healthy, and ik how pyke work, i played him non stop When he was out. He does sustain for unbalanced amoutn in lane and Dont tell me otherwise. He's freaking impossible to catch or punish Inleas u are camille to trap him. I guess u pyke main from u just said ?

ZephyrDrake2 votes

So... your solution is "completely erase him from the game"? Ok

Hi Its Scirocco1 votes

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So... your solution is "completely erase him from the game"? Ok

no Wtf ahaha, i didnt mean to erase him, After removing some of toxic mechanic in his kit, i told u buff some Like buffing his q cc duration, giving shield on his E, making his ult % missing health So he can fight tanks better, Buff his Hp and tankness per lvl Since passive need honesly to go away ... if u conside erasing him an option, i dont mind Because lets be honest... He never should vs exist in first place, his kite scream overloaded and unhealthy broken

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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no Wtf ahaha, i didnt mean to erase him, After removing some of toxic mechanic in his kit, i told u buff some Like buffing his q cc duration, giving shield on his E, making his ult % missing health So he can fight tanks better, Buff his Hp and tankness per lvl Since passive need honesly to go away ... if u conside erasing him an option, i dont mind Because lets be honest... He never should vs exist in first place, his kite scream overloaded and unhealthy broken

Cool I guess I should add another person in the "never listen to anything they say balanced wise" list I have

The thigh guy1 votes

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So... your solution is "completely erase him from the game"? Ok

Pretty sure most people are okay with that. -.-

ZephyrDrake2 votes

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Pretty sure most people are okay with that. -.-

Pretty sure that people who want any champion to be erased from the game shouldn't be allowed to talk balance

The thigh guy1 votes

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Pretty sure that people who want any champion to be erased from the game shouldn't be allowed to talk balance

Depends how big of a mistake the champion is.

Aatrox. Cool (after the e nerfs) Akali rework. Never should have existed.

Xayah/rakan. Cool concept, executed okay. Ekko? Absolute garbage fire of a champion.

The thigh guy1 votes

I’d be fine with him. I’d be fine with his damage. I’d be fine with his cc. I’d be fine with his execute. If he was fucking punishable. Poke doesn’t work. All ins don’t work. Out sustaining him doesn’t work. Bursting him out doesn’t work.

Gut his hp and armor down to reasonable levels for an assassin and remove that stupid grey health shit.

Hi Its Scirocco1 votes

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I’d be fine with him. I’d be fine with his damage. I’d be fine with his cc. I’d be fine with his execute. If he was fucking punishable. Poke doesn’t work. All ins don’t work. Out sustaining him doesn’t work. Bursting him out doesn’t work.

Gut his hp and armor down to reasonable levels for an assassin and remove that stupid grey health shit.

U kn how riot work, if the nerf his tankness, They will over buff his damage to the point Where he full health ur bar in one q e My idees are to nerf his super dumb safety Where he say"i fuckk up but My champ is so overloaded So u cant do anything to me"

Kazekiba2 votes

They can't buff his damage or he becomes a solo laner. Pyke has to be support or he becomes unhealthy and scales too fast.

Hi Its Scirocco1 votes

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They can't buff his damage or he becomes a solo laner. Pyke has to be support or he becomes unhealthy and scales too fast.

If he's support Then why he's midlane win rate is 53 % with high pick rate and insanen bann rate

Kazekiba1 votes

insane* ban* rate Because he's really strong support?

As for mid pyke 53% WR, probably because he as a 1/190 games pick rate (that high pick rate is, again, Support) with over 93% of Pyke games played support, and the majority of the rest are probably a mix of jungle/mid and very bad. You can play any champ wherever, Zyra mid works too but you dont see it often unless someone is smurfing or trying to copy Caps' game 2 against FPX... in which he lost specifically because of pyke's weaknesses as a laner (waveclear, range poke and ability to farm under tower all low)

Ragnaveil1 votes

Poke does work, and it will definitely work once Relic's health procs go away. He just had his passive sustain take a heavy hit.

The thigh guy1 votes

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Poke does work, and it will definitely work once Relic's health procs go away. He just had his passive sustain take a heavy hit.

And then you realize he builds corruption potion on first back and upgrades relic and it doesn’t matter.

Ragnaveil2 votes

I've never seen a corrupting first back Pyke.

The thigh guy1 votes

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I've never seen a corrupting first back Pyke.

Then you aren’t playing against many Pyke’s. Or atleast many good ones.

Average First back consists of Upgrade refillable, upgrade relic shield, pink ward.

Then suddenly he can’t be poked, can’t be all in’d and still wins most fights.

Kazekiba1 votes

Hmmm, thats odd. Checking Pyke mains match histories I dont see a single corrupting pot.

I saw a Refillable, that was sold 2 minutes later. 30-40+ games of pyke reviewed. No Corrupting pots at any point. Sounds like a low elo cheese strat

Ragnaveil1 votes

Or heres an idea: Revert all the changes to pre-nerfing pyke top, then add the current version of his passive and the current damage function of his R. You fix every problem with him right there.

Hi Its Scirocco1 votes

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Or heres an idea: Revert all the changes to pre-nerfing pyke top, then add the current version of his passive and the current damage function of his R. You fix every problem with him right there.

In history of riot balancing, They will never revert any buff they did, Riot refuse to confess they mess up sometime and this idee has ruined league balance Starting since ardent meta Where they refused to revert buffs That made that stupid item follow up By stupid change after an other reaching league to this point. If u ask me, revert everything back to season 5 before world patch When the game was at its glory time of balance and fun

Mahoh1 votes

Just take the reset off his ult. I hate executes that reset on kills.

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