Why would I play Olaf when I can play Tryndamere?

d0riyah·Nov 9, 2018·5 votes·1,657 views

Legit question. Lifesteal? Tryndamere does it way better. Running in wrecklessly? Tryndamere has dashes to do that. Q slow? Why do that when you can press w for a point and click slow (sometimes) that you can follow up with dashes? Lifestealing out of death? Tryndamere ult. Splitting? Tryndamere does better Damage? Tryndamere does way better

The only advantage Olaf has a better early game (that's question considering Trynd can crit) and he doesn't need ult to do stuff. help

18 Comments

Moody PNov 9, 20186 votes

because olaf doesn't fall apart against tanks who can lock him down

ProffessorAutismNov 9, 20181 votes

tell me one tank taht's played top that can win vs attack speed+lifesteam champs

Moody PNov 9, 20181 votes

i know you want to jack off about how bad you think tanks are, but this isn't about laning

NevurwinNov 9, 20182 votes

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tell me one tank taht's played top that can win vs attack speed+lifesteam champs

Even Malphite eventually loses out to Trynd.

EedatNov 9, 20181 votes

Malphite

DarukongSrNov 9, 20184 votes

While Olaf could use a mini update and tryn is a stupid champ, I have to agree that Olaf has the advantage over tryn in cc heavy teamfights because ilaf can get to the backline way better during his ult, and okay can build tanky, tryn can't. Other than that though, the OP has some strong points.

EedatNov 9, 20183 votes

You're being extremely biased. Their kits do different things are have strengths and weaknesses in different areas. Olaf's and Tryndamere's "lifesteal" function much differently. First, Trydamere doesn't even have lifesteal. He has a heal on his Q that consumes all his rage. You really don't want to use this in a fight as you sacrifice a large chunk of your damage to do so. Tryndamere's Q is more used as a sustaining tool for in lane and split pushing. In contrast, Olaf's lifesteal is actually very useful in an actual fight.

Running in wrecklessly? Tryndamere has dashes to do that.

Absolutely not. This is something Olaf is waaaaayyyyy better at. If Tryndamere spins in recklessly and gets caught in one CC he's done for. Pretty much means he has to pop ult and pray the enemies let him walk out after its over. Tryndamere doesn't get multiple dashes if he's not hitting anything. Tryndamere is notoriously dogshit for team fighting. Olaf's strength lies in being unstoppable while popping ghost and righteous glory and sticking power on his Q refunds

Q slow? Why do that when you can press w for a point and click slow (sometimes) that you can follow up with dashes?

It's really obvious that you're just being salty as fuck over something at thing point. Do I need to explain the mechanics on picking up Olaf's axes and spam slowing people as opposed to Tryndamere's singe use slow?

Lifestealing out of death? Tryndamere ult.

This isn't even a point. Trydamere doesn't have lifesteal built in. He has a single heal on his Q.

d0riyahNov 9, 20181 votes

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You're being extremely biased. Their kits do different things are have strengths and weaknesses in different areas. Olaf's and Tryndamere's "lifesteal" function much differently. First, Trydamere doesn't even have lifesteal. He has a heal on his Q that consumes all his rage. You really don't want to use this in a fight as you sacrifice a large chunk of your damage to do so. Tryndamere's Q is more used as a sustaining tool for in lane and split pushing. In contrast, Olaf's lifesteal is actually very useful in an actual fight.

Absolutely not. This is something Olaf is waaaaayyyyy better at. If Tryndamere spins in recklessly and gets caught in one CC he's done for. Pretty much means he has to pop ult and pray the enemies let him walk out after its over. Tryndamere doesn't get multiple dashes if he's not hitting anything. Tryndamere is notoriously dogshit for team fighting. Olaf's strength lies in being unstoppable while popping ghost and righteous glory and sticking power on his Q refunds

It's really obvious that you're just being salty as fuck over something at thing point. Do I need to explain the mechanics on picking up Olaf's axes and spam slowing people as opposed to Tryndamere's singe use slow?

This isn't even a point. Trydamere doesn't have lifesteal built in. He has a single heal on his Q.

a tryndamere with full build+bork+bloodthirster is better at healing than an olaf with full build+ravenous+spirit. olaf dies way faster than tryndamere and does less damage even though the point of him is to lifesteal through death. why would you spam q with olaf when you can spam e with tryndamere which does the same thing as olaf q spam but you're actually moving yourself? also i'm saying what's the point of trying to heal your way through dying when you can a) not die for 5 seconds and b) heal more than an olaf with full build while killing them way better. i do agree that olaf fares better vs. tanks and he's better at running into the team though. i'm just thinking that what's the point of being ccproof when you'll just die while dealing a quarter the damage trynd can do in the few seconds he has when he isn't stunlocked.

EedatNov 9, 20182 votes

Wow, you can compare Trynd with a Bloodthirster to an Olaf with nothing. Weird how exceptions can be made to further your point.

It's very clear the differences between these two champion and what their different strengths and weaknesses are. It's also equally obvious that you don't actually care and only want to make a salty shitpost because you're mad at your last game. If you can't even understand the different strengths and weaknesses between Olaf and Tryndamere then you probably shouldn't be talking about gameplay to begin with

ValyrianBladeNov 9, 20182 votes

How do you even compare a champion that's probably the most hard countered by CC in the game to the champion that's probably least affected by cc in the game?

Enemy team has a Zyra? Olaf. Enemy team has a Morgana? Olaf. Lux? Olaf. Malz? Olaf. Syndra? Olaf. Basically any immobile mage that relies on cc for safety makes Olaf a great pick (and trynd a terrible one).

Also, Olaf has ranged aoe damage, trynd has to get in melee range to do anything. That's a huge advantage. If we're talking specifically top Lane (instead of JG where Olaf is way better) - Olaf can farm and trade in the early game against picks like Gnar or Quinn, trynd can't really. Even picks like ornn can typically dominate trynd pre 6, but Olaf can deal with them pretty well.

Salvor HardınNov 9, 20181 votes

Personally, I think Olaf requires a mini-network. Similar to Ezreal, splash arts, some skill and so on, visual update.

SlythionNov 9, 20181 votes

Because Olaf is infinitely better at being a diver in a teamfight due to better movement speed and immunity to CC, while Tryndamere is a better splitpusher due to his higher damage+ulti and itemization making him the better duelist of the two

LilxPaprikaNov 9, 20181 votes

they need to nerf TTK then Olaf can shine more.

Friendly RamNov 9, 20181 votes

Olaf Ahem. BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

JoeMGNov 9, 20181 votes

Olaf builds tankier and can teamfight better due to his ult giving CC immunity.

Tryn builds damage and can't handle teamfights as well because he gets peeled much easier than Olaf. That's why Tryns usually just mindlessly splitpush.

Just depends what works better with your team comp.

Pika FoxNov 9, 20181 votes

Olafs ult is almost universally better than trynd.

Olaf is generally better than trynd.

Olaf has better jungle clear and clears absurdly fast compared to most junglers. His damage is well enough, and when he is meta he can run past threats to the backline.

Unable to be CCd is just better than not being able to die.

d0riyahNov 9, 20181 votes

you only build 1 lifesteal item on olaf at most, and it's ravenous with a spirit. if you're implying there's some build with bork and ravenous i've never heard of then, yeah you're probably right then. still, my point still stands.

Around999PeopleNov 9, 20181 votes

Trynd was one of my first mains and I have to say that I agree. I always liked him better than olaf. But he gets destroyed really easily by tanks who build thorn mail first. Eventually yes he can kill them, but by that point the tank would have had much more value in the game. Trynd either stomps early on or fizzles out.