Tank-Update who are going to get it?

VelvetCrotch··4 votes·1,814 views

So, we all know the tank-update is coming this year and definitely 3 Champs are going to get it. One is confirmed. It's Sejuani.

But who are the other 2?

Riot declared that very old tanks like Malphite Rammus and Amumu will get a full vgu instead of an update.

Sion is too new. And Supps like Alistar TahmKench Braum Leona wont get it either.

RekSai wont be a "vanguard" after her update.

That leaves us - imo - with the following champs: Maokai Gragas Nautilus Zac Shen

"Vote" here and - if u want - explain ure thoughts. (in a couple of weaks we'll know it anyway i guess)

EDIT: the 3 are:Sejuani Maokai Zac

32 Comments

Linna Excel2 votes

Voli and Naut?

Penns1 votes

Even tho I hate playing against them, I think Naut and Zac are already pretty cool and unique, Maokai too. So I guess Nasus//Voli/Shen?

VelvetCrotch1 votes

Btw my thoughts are Nautilus and Maokai. Cause Mao was very dominant the last... months? And now they nerfed him. Pretty good time for an update, imo. Naut is just a gut feeling.

Ralanr1 votes

Nasus and Volibear are juggernauts (though I can see Volibear being turned into a tank) so it's unlikely.

Shen is a Warden, so also unlikely if it's Vanguards only. Plus he got reworked recently.

Vanguards

Malphite Amumu Leona Zac Gragas Rammus Mega Gnar Sejuani Rek’Sai Sion Nautilus Skarner

Personally I think it'll be Leona and Gragas if it isn't Malphite and Amumu. Leona is still a vanguard despite her being a support (you can be both).

Personally I'd like to see Skarner there as well.

I'm surprised that Malphite and Amumu are considered too old for this. I know they were in the original 40, but I assumed that would push them towards the update.

Wet Dryman1 votes

I hope that they won't touch Grag. He fulfills goals of class update really well. He has high skill ceiling, low skill floor, dodgeable and transparent abilities, his combos are hard to pull off and aren't reliable, his rework in 2014 fully realized his thematic fantasy and he is very unique champion (even in the tank family). And apart from that his eventual changes will almost 100% butcher off meta but still viable and not OP paths like AP Bruiser or Mage. I don't want another Malzahar who lost his AD build path, Shaco who was garbage as AD for a long time, Skarner who can now forget about damage oriented tanky build path to be useful or Mordekaiser who is bound to build damage no matter what to be relevant (RIP old Rylai + WotA + rest tank build).

Ralanr1 votes

Isn't Shaco a godtier jungler right now?

Wet Dryman1 votes

I wasn't talking about his current state. Just after rework he was very weak as AD while AP Shaco dominated and was one shotting everyone from mid game to late game. AD was weak because of his passive not interacting with normal crits, lethality being weak on him and losing so much power from E and Q. After Gunblade and AP ratios changes AP Shaco is fine now while AD is now kinda overpowered because of how strong currently lethality is combined with previous fixes to his kit.

VelvetCrotch1 votes

Well, they already mentioned that it will be vanguards and warden. And Leona is on a pretty good spot ( i think Reav3 mentioned this)

But ure right, i forgot Gragas... LOL. Could be possible.

Big Lincoln1 votes

all we know for sure is that Sejuani is gonna be ruined

Ralanr1 votes

Was wondering when I'd see your reaction. Not surprised.

Big Lincoln1 votes

check my post history I already made a thread

downvoted by Riot groupies of course

Ralanr1 votes

Or because it was mainly bitching. The damage complaint becomes a bit pointless when Riot already said that they would put increased damage against jungle monsters if need be.

The Calvary argument is that Kled is light while Sejuani is heavy. Kled constantly goes in and out while he whittles the opponent down. Sejuani is meant to lead the charge (and yes, I know about Kled's ultimate. I'm arguing thematic in this paragraph, not mechanics).

As for her W, I personally hope they intend for her to have more unreliable (and therefore higher) damage because her teamfight gimmick was swinging the flail and being annoying after using her Q. She (and Amumu) are basically the champion versions of Sunfire cape.

Will her rework suck? To you it will because she'll never be a juggernaut (and there's nothing on her kit that you could keep for a juggernaut. Her Q is too mobile, her E is worthless without her W and her W offers too much CC for a juggernaut to have. The only juggernaut with AoE CC that's good is Darius and it's a short pull).

Personally I hope she doesn't get pushed to support. I'm willing to see what happens rather than get salty before the final product is revealed.

Big Lincoln1 votes

man, the juggernaut stuff is just shitposting

all I know is that I 100% hate how they make it sound and if it's as bad as it sounds I'm probably uninstalling

tired of every rework making me lose a champion

Ralanr2 votes

Hopefully it's good.

VelvetCrotch1 votes

Why? Oo

Illâoi Evê Siôn1 votes

Nasus and Volibear are Juggernauts. I wouldn't bet on them.

VelvetCrotch1 votes

k was just an idea, cuz u can build them very tanky and especially voli has some cc and engage potential. ;)

VelvetCrotch1 votes

UPDATE: My prediciton was right: Maokai gets a rework too.

Sejuani Maokai [?]

only one is missing guys. Who might that be? https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/7da06085-ecec-4be5-82a7-c3b3f415721e_1.de732a80c5fbf6f577eea938e95d1c91.jpeg

And A Real Hiero1 votes

Why call it tank update if they don't touch up all the champs.

VelvetCrotch1 votes

idk - thought first time more are going to get some tweaks too. but as far as i can remember, they mentioned that they dont want to touch as many as in the assassin-update to do the specific champs more accurate. (cause LB and Kata failed at some point i guess)

Edit: and i think some tankier dudes need a rework more than others - many are in a good spot atm.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Alistar TahmKench Braum Leona wont get it either.

i dont think the other guys will get one, since their kits are already unique, or in alistars case he just got a mini rework. but what makes you think Leona will 100% not get changes? she is a vanguard after all.

VelvetCrotch1 votes

cause they already mentioned that she is in a pretty good spot atm. ^^

VelvetCrotch1 votes

UPDATE: No Gragas changes planned, according to Meddler.

Leaves us with:

Volibear Shen Nautilus and maybe Zac

any other possibilities?

Wet Dryman1 votes

Skarner for now is listed as Vanguard and I have a strange feeling that he will be announced as the next rework judging by Riot's love for changing this guy in the past.

VelvetCrotch1 votes

Skarner ... nearly as much reworked as Ryze lul.

idk... i think skarner should get (and deserve) a separate rework like ryze got recently.

Wet Dryman1 votes

I think that he was fine the way he was earlier (times where his second Q slowed and his E healed) and his reworks from that point were only tilting his mains to the point that many of them gave up on playing him.

Blitzidious1 votes

My guess is Gragas, and Zac. Not because I personally see anything wrong with them, it's just that out of the remainders you listed, Zac is actually labelled as a Vanguard, and Gragas (although I don't know much about him) seems like he fits the bill, so to speak. I'm not sure what Maokai and Naut are, but I've always assumed they're Wardens, like Shen.

It may have been just me misreading stuff, but I believe they've listed Voli as a Juggernaut.

VelvetCrotch1 votes

No Gragas changes planned, according to Meddler.

And yeah, Voli is a Juggernaut. But maybe gets a rework into a warden? (or vanguard?)

Could fit, imo. Or not?

VelvetCrotch1 votes

u were right. Zac will get it.

Kaìju1 votes

I think they confirmed it was Maokai, they made a post on Reddit recently and they had stated that of they couldn't get his ult to work it would be changed completely because he's too much of a generalist, too good at everything.

VelvetCrotch1 votes

Yeah, already updated this thread. ^^ Sejuani and Maokai. but one is missing. thx anyway for the attempt to help out here.

VelvetCrotch1 votes

UPDATE: Last of the 3 big tank-updates is revealed. Its Zac.

according to surr@20 Sejuani gets the biggest/drastic change, followed buy some smaller changes to Maokai and Zac.

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