Champions VGUs after Fiddel and Voli + pls do more per year

VelvetCrotch·Jan 16, 2020·43 votes·20,361 views

Fiddel VGU looks freakin AMAZING so far - Voli looks really cool and intersting too but i personally really hoped for 4 VGUs this year. (Volid and Fiddel first half of the year)

So i really hope for next year there will be more and here are some REALLY urgent ones:

Yes. Many seem to forget Anivia and Malph who both look simply hilarious vanilla. But Udyr REALLY needs a VGU even it will be one of the hardest VGUs!!!

What do you think? Do you agree? or do you even think there are more urgent ones beside Udyr?

77 Comments

PinkPowerCoinJan 16, 202017 votes

I would also add

Caitlyn Ashe Janna Lux

They don't need it as bad as the ones you mentioned obviously. They also don't need gameplay updates (imo), but I definitely think they could benefit from a Ezreal/Morgana level VU.

PyrosanJan 16, 202010 votes

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SukishooJan 16, 202014 votes

She hasn't had a VGU. She got an effects update but her base model and skins before SG are awful. So if anything, she does indeed need a Visual Update, not Visual Gameplay Update

PyrosanJan 16, 20206 votes

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SukishooJan 16, 20205 votes

Not even, cause again, she's never had one. Her latest update was a visual effects, being her ability particles. She is from the same time period as Udyr so that argument doesn't work.

PyrosanJan 16, 20202 votes

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SukishooJan 16, 20206 votes

They don't though. The way Riot has categorized them is not at all like that.

Effects Update - particles used on abilities. Visual update - a complete overhaul to the character model.

PyrosanJan 16, 20202 votes

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TerozuJan 16, 20203 votes

Source, the Effect Update posts that have been given to, Heimer, Annie, Amumu, etc.

Which are and have been specifically called Effect Updates

PinkPowerCoinJan 16, 20208 votes

I wasn't arguing that Lux has any sort of priority over the champions you just mentioned. Though I would argue Heim and Singed don't need it either (especially considering unlike Lux, they themselves got an actual VGU). Lux and the other three i mentioned are just ones I think could use the visual boost since their models and designs are kind of outdated. But, again, they aren't high priority.

OleandervineJan 17, 20203 votes

Heimer, yes, he did get a VGU. Singed did not though, he got an extremely soft model update, and kit revisions several years later. Singed is still in need a complete VGU, his kit, while niche, is a gimmick at this point, and needs some love to become viable. He also needs a massive animations overhaul, as well as a full VO update.

Addtionally, I would consider Lux a high priority for a Morgana level VGU. Lux has seen a LOT of prevalence in other media, from videos, comics, and even Riot's other games. Lux is the poster girl for League right now, and considering she looks like warmed up shit in game, she's desperately in need of an update. She mostly needs just visual and animations update, since her VO was technically updated not too long ago - though, I'd not be upset if she did get a brand new VO to account for all the lore updates since then. Riot really should do something about her, because people from outside the game who are drawn in by seeing Lux elsewhere will be turned off instantly at seeing her severely dated graphics.

PinkPowerCoinJan 17, 20201 votes

You'll get no argument from me. A Lux VU (and more VO work) would be a dream!

SukishooJan 16, 20206 votes

Ashe and Janna I disagree with as theirs have held up fairly well, since they last had visual updates back in 2011 (Janna) and 2012 (Ashe). Cait and Lux could definitely use some Visual love.

JimTheSnailJan 16, 20206 votes

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Ashe and Janna I disagree with as theirs have held up fairly well, since they last had visual updates back in 2011 (Janna) and 2012 (Ashe). Cait and Lux could definitely use some Visual love.

I disagree with your opinion on the Janna one. I think Janna looks hideous in game. Her hair, her movements are not fluent, and not to mention her kit could use fine tuning. Not reworked just number changes. Such as her shield doesn't need to deteriorate and the AD she gives is practically useless so put the "power" somewhere else or make it persist after the like 200HP shield breaks.

SukishooJan 16, 20206 votes

You think this looks bad ? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2sdh_m_VV5U/VO4yKDhNJ-I/AAAAAAAABtw/JKlvF7q91Ic/s1600/jannaturn.jpg

Have you even seen her original model?

http://blastmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Janna10.jpg

JimTheSnailJan 16, 20204 votes

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You think this looks bad ? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2sdh_m_VV5U/VO4yKDhNJ-I/AAAAAAAABtw/JKlvF7q91Ic/s1600/jannaturn.jpg

Have you even seen her original model?

http://blastmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Janna10.jpg

That is such a mind blowing insane argument. "Because she got a VU before she now looks so so good!" xD You are so cute. Dude her base model is on par with skarner, anivia, and malph. Champions released in 2011 look better than she does when she got her VU in 2011. Being Fizz Ahri and Cait. I would even argue voli doesn't look bad but is in need of a major VGU (which is why he is getting one)

TerozuJan 16, 20201 votes

That's not what he said.

He said since she's gotten one, she shouldn't be as high priority as the other 2, who've never gotten one.

JimTheSnailJan 20, 20201 votes

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That's not what he said.

He said since she's gotten one, she shouldn't be as high priority as the other 2, who've never gotten one.

Maybe that is what he meant but it is not what he typed. he cleaarly stated they don't need one. "Ashe and Janna I disagree with as theirs have held up fairly well, since they last had visual updates back in 2011 (Janna) and 2012 (Ashe). Cait and Lux could definitely use some Visual love.".

Then he contridicted himself by saying "Since janna had one in 2012 she doesn't need one"

Well Lux got on in 2015 (VU) and the VFX update in 2019. So what exactly am I missing here? (Because he doesn't look it up here )

I am just saying Janna's model is outdated and needs way more improvement than Lux's. I am not trying to be a dick. I am just saying she has already been touched and on top of that doesn't already know she has been announced as having one in progress.

I understand she is one of the more popular champs in league therefore will always come first. But it does seem kind of shitty to make false claims. (yes it may not be as big as the one janna received but clearly it was due to lux needing only a minor one. and if I where to say I would say she only needs a minor one again due to even during her VFX update she got some better fixes on quite a few skins)

VelvetCrotchJan 17, 20201 votes

well true regarding ADCs i would second that Ash needs one, but also MF and especially Cait. idk about Lux and Janna atm. but i would REALLY love to see a more interesting kit for Janna.

zounetJan 16, 202010 votes

Amumu and corki and gragas and Cho gath And I totally agree that anivia need a vgu or at least a vu

VelvetCrotchJan 16, 20203 votes

omg so true. especially gragas and cho could look really cool after a VGU or VU. (my guess is Gragas get more of a VU and Cho more of a VGU - what do you think?) and yeah Anivia looks soooooo hilarious vanilla and in most of her old skins. its really sad.

zounetJan 16, 20203 votes

I think she doesn't actually look like a demi god, she s just an ice bird and for me it s quite boring as design

ACriticalThinkerJan 17, 20201 votes

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omg so true. especially gragas and cho could look really cool after a VGU or VU. (my guess is Gragas get more of a VU and Cho more of a VGU - what do you think?) and yeah Anivia looks soooooo hilarious vanilla and in most of her old skins. its really sad.

I want updated Gragas titties...

GilxeNJan 17, 20201 votes

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Amumu and corki and gragas and Cho gath And I totally agree that anivia need a vgu or at least a vu

Gragas already had VGU, not sure if he will receive any soon.

mrmeddymanJan 16, 20209 votes

If they want to commit to resources to VGU this year than 2020 should become the year of the VgU.

Jax Gragas Blitzcrank Kennen Olaf

So many champs with tried and true gameplay still need a modernization. Especially Jax. PLS. He's had the same model since beta making him the only champ to never have his model changed of the original launch champions.

Eternal791Jan 16, 20204 votes

Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of stories they can't truly push forward without VGU's, cause it would be kinda lame to get one champion featured in something big, such as a comic or tv show, only to have that champion be reworked with new lore, and suddenly look different.

Like Arcane seems to hint at Dr. Mundo possibly making an appearance (though its entirely possible that it's not him). And its entirely possible, if not likely, that we'll see Singed too.

TzQGRUST39Jan 16, 20204 votes

Even the boards forget about my boy Corki

MuzétJan 17, 20203 votes

Anivia does NOT need a VGU.

Being old isn't a reason to VGU an unit. Anivia's kit perfectly holds its ground nowadays. Yes she's not as flashy as newer units but she doesn't need to be. Rammus and Olaf are debatable. ♦ I would put Olaf's W unto his passive with a HP threshold requirement to kick in with a CD getting reduced everytime he hits an enemy and make a new thing out of his W. ♦ I don't know what I would change about Rammus. While I think his kit is fine. Maybe he could do with some tunings. Maybe his spiked shells could also affects abilities? I don't know. Being an auto-attack counter champ only is terrible nowadays with all the tools available.

I'm fine with the other champions in the list but... Where is statcheckcomeatleast3versusmeorIwillkillyallandyourtowers Tryndamere . This one deserved a VGU (not only because Freljord's lore moving a bit but also cause the few times you see him it's a nightmare to handle)

GreenLoreJan 17, 20206 votes

Anivia doesn't need a full VGU, but she could get an Ezreal-level VGU, thats mostly visuals, with only a few gameplay changes.

Though I agree that Trynda definitely needs a VGU, probably more than Anivia.

MuzétJan 17, 20202 votes

but she could get an Ezreal-level VGU, thats mostly visuals, with only a few gameplay changes.

Not even Ezreal level. Very recently (like Dec 2018 recently) she got an incredible VFX update. The only thing really outdated are her base skins and her 520 skins. And I don't even feel like her Gameplay remotely needs a change at all. At best, she could inflict a grounded effect somehow but that might end up being too strong. Her gameplay is straightforward but cool.

GreenLoreJan 17, 20201 votes

I've mentioned it in another post already, but I feel like Anivias E feels a bit out of place in her kit. Most of her spells are about staying at a safe range from the enemy and are kinda slow(Q has a slow movement speed, W keeps enemies away and R needs to build up), but her E is a spell with short range and that needs to be fired in a small timewindow to be effective, its the complete opposite of everything else in her moveset. I understand that it is a tool to give anivia an incentive to get a bit closer, so that the enemy has some options for counterplay, but if feels rather clunky.

QMightyJan 17, 20201 votes

I'm thinking more Morgana-level, where they just shift numbers a bit and maybe give her a new effect or two.

ShirvallahJan 17, 20203 votes

Anivia really doesn’t need a VGU. Her kit’s held up well over the years. They updated the spell FX recently. All she needs is a new model (and an updated bio), and she’s good.

VelvetCrotchJan 17, 20201 votes

her kit is really not that bad, but a bit unbalanced imo. the wall and ult are iconic, but her E/Q combo is a tad too strong, but i agree that a VU would be maybe enough for that. her kit doesn't feel demi-god like enough in my opinion. i personally would love to see her fly above the battlefield and making a path of frost even maybe stop turrets from shooting for 3 sec at max rank.

Sir SaltarinJan 18, 20201 votes

There are way

Way more outdated kits than Anivia

I wouldn't put her on a VGU list

VelvetCrotchJan 18, 20201 votes

true. she should be on the very top of the VU list (she really needs a similar touch like Ezreal and Morgana ) but not a full VGU. but i am too lazy to remove her from the list above - for now. since i think she needs attention at least visually.

Vlada CutJan 16, 20202 votes

Annivia doesn't need a VGU.

She needs a VU aka a visual update, her gameplay design is fine as it is.

The ones with a complete rework overhaul is for the champions in desperate needs like Shyvana, who was the third most voted pick in the last VGU vosting poll.

Love AnastasiaJan 17, 20202 votes

Sjyvana, Anivia, Skarner, Malphite and Nocturne doesn't need a VGU

moogle890Jan 17, 20202 votes

Slides forward

EdgeLadyJan 17, 20202 votes

Can't believe everyone's forgetting our favorite clown, Shaco . Now that Fiddlesticks is getting a rework with a lore update, Shaco is the only champion left without any place in the modern lore. We're not even certain if he'll end up remaining a human, becoming some sort of toy or demon, or what region he could even belong to. And kit-wise, he's a big mess, without much coherency other than a bunch of ways to troll the enemy team. I think he should keep the clones and his passive though.

RadeticDrawsJan 17, 20202 votes

Skarner and Nocturne are my priority

Power CosmicJan 17, 20201 votes

Sett's kit is simpler than either of those, and he is brand new. Do you play either Skarner or Noc, and do you know how their communities feel? Or you just want the game to make changes on your behalf?

14daysuspensionkJan 16, 20201 votes

How the Hell does one even update Mundo? His whole characters is a goofy idiot who thinks he's doing the world a favor by killing and hurting everyone. Not a whole lot of characters like Mundo exist now, I'm wondering how they're gonna rework him without making him look ridiculous.

GreenLoreJan 16, 20202 votes

I think him looking ridiculous is part of the point. Mundo is meant to be funny.

14daysuspensionkJan 17, 20201 votes

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I think him looking ridiculous is part of the point. Mundo is meant to be funny.

True but that's not my point. How do you make it work with a nupdated kit, odel and possibly, lore? Without making it look off-putting.

GreenLoreJan 17, 20202 votes

To be honest I feel like Mundos design is pretty iconic the way it is and his current lore does manage to make him work in a funny way. So what needs an update the most would be the quality of his design and animations and his kit(especially the W and E are rather boring).

14daysuspensionkJan 17, 20201 votes

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To be honest I feel like Mundos design is pretty iconic the way it is and his current lore does manage to make him work in a funny way. So what needs an update the most would be the quality of his design and animations and his kit(especially the W and E are rather boring).

Yeah but how are they gonna make it work and modernize it? Considering his ingame visuals it's pretty hard to make him look like someone who is a danger to ohers around him without making him look silly.

GreenLoreJan 17, 20202 votes

A huge guy with tons of muscles swinging cleavers around is gonna end up looking dangerous even if he looks silly while doing so.

Power CosmicJan 17, 20201 votes

I strongly disagree. A lot of people that play those champs, like them the way they are; that is why they play them. Sett is a great example of how you can keep the game heading forward and making money. If you dont like Sett, you dont play him, if you like him, you play him. Meanwhile no one loses anything. Very few VGUs have been net positive for the game and community. In terms of your list, I main and love Udyr, Nocturne, Skarner, Mundo, and Rammus and have played Malph and Aniviaa a fair amount, and enjoy them all. New champs and visual upgrades are definitely the way to go for the future, bc neither has a potential downside.

VelvetCrotchJan 17, 20202 votes

what are you talking about? ofc you can disagree but udyr is no real champion. he has no real kit. he is even more braindead than Trynd, Yi, and Annie. and thats really hard to beat. if you don't want a VGU for Udyr you are no real fan League and giving Udyr real attention and love. he has so much potential. + most VGUs were great. Urgot? awesome, Warwick? amazing even Akali is better in comparison to her old version and Morde imo too aswell as Sion and Poppy. So i really don't know what you are talking about. I personally play since late 2012/early 2013.

ofc there are champs who primary just need a VU like Ezreal and Morgana. But no one i mentioned except MAYBE Anivia.