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Why the mage rework is useless and wont make mage played again.

Shifthappens·4/22/2016, 2:08:12 AM·6 votes·878 views

Alright, i'm going on a rant here. I've played AP mage mid pretty much since beta, mained Veigar and mid up until his rework. I have always been mid-low diamond in my rank, always played for fun.

/tinfoilhat On http://www.lolking.net/champions Go by popularity, you will find your mage rooster.

Veigar Back then, you remove his targeted Q and put a delay on E making his meteor nul. You removed all his potency and redefined his role from an assassin to a skillshot no range mage?­ He had a good player base that liked him but now, no one plays him.

Same issue with Ryze , changed his Q, his iconic spell, into a skillshot. Same with old Xerath , now with Swain and Zyra . You made spell unreliable in a game of mobility.

You can't have mage with unreliable kit that will hit sometime against a rooster of Zed /Yasuo /Leblanc /Corki /Fizz and even the weird picks like MonkeyKing , Graves , Gragas or anything with mobility. This is until someone buy boots and just outrun/outmaneuver you because let's face it, anybody outside of bronze/silver will be able to do so.

While what AP are doing good mid lane? The mobile assassin: Ekko , Fizz , Katarina and Ahri The reliable high damage stun mage: Anivia , Annie , Malzahar , Brand and TwistedFate .

These are the only mage with over 50% win atm. And you buffed two of them.

Hell, Velkoz , Zyra , Zilean AnnieBrand are seeing play as support mostly. And I bet more will go support in the future.

Poke mage are a joke in damage, they can't commit on a kill, they're doomed to let their target run away at low health. Lux is the best of them and she's picked because of her high utility/cc. Have any rioter tried to finish a target with Xerath ult or Ziggs? That's why nobody likes to play them. Have you ever been hit by jayce ball? Why poke mage can't have that?

Ryze ,Veigar , Viktor , Syndra , Orianna , Lissandra , Kennen , Ziggs , AurelionSol , Xerath , Karthus . They all needed help dealing with the Power creep of mobility champion by having reliable dmg/cc.

While, Kassadin is on his own, he got eve'd because riot don't know how to balanced him, and Leblanc is on the border of joining him, except she's still potent with ppl who main her.

Mage can only compete against each other and are a detriment to the team when you can pick an AD counterpart. They just can't lane and come on top against them. Why can't they have early sustain damage to help them cs? Why can't they have early Mana and Health sustain so they could see some play as a bot lane carry with a support for them, and maybe add new support item to fit that new role?

I believe riot wants more unreliable spell so their precious Yasuo LeeSin Zed makes more flashy #LCSbigPLAY I see no other reason.

/tinfoilhat off

8 Comments

ModWulf Helhammer4/22/2016, 2:13:42 AM4 votes

Maybe you should just get good at landing skill shots, then come back and see if you still have complaints.

Sincerely, a guy who has been playing Xerath as his main mid for two seasons, and still makes FoW ult snipes

Vanic9984/22/2016, 2:14:26 AM4 votes

I completely disagree. I don't know about the rest, but as a VELKOZ main with 600k mastery points, the VELKOZ rework is at least successful. I've done the math and the damage he does vs squishes is about the same. The difference is that the the damage he does vs tanks is increased significantly thanks to more true damage. This distinguishes VELKOZ from other mages as a tank buster which was riots goal for this rework, make mages more unique. From my perspective, riot has done a great job and I plan to continue playing mages, specifically VELKOZ. Btw, trust me, no one likes this bruiser meta. VELKOZ will be played because it can help to end this bruiser meta.

theonlyaustin4/22/2016, 2:10:49 AM4 votes

Hands up if you stopped playing mages. looks around sees no hands oh ok then*[slayer-jinx-unamused]*

JerulEon4/22/2016, 2:26:04 AM2 votes

Hey man. I feel your pain. Mages have been getting outclassed for sure. But at least Veigar is getting a buff. He no longer scales off of his enemy's AP and gets AP just by hitting his abilities on them. I think that's pretty awesome.

Also, the new mage items are pretty strong. Like Morello went from like 80 AP to 100 AP. Idk about you but all these changes I believe will put mages back at it again. I guess just a little more time -- hang in there.

MushyMilk4/22/2016, 2:15:42 AM1 votes

Mages*

ChaddyFantome4/22/2016, 2:18:20 AM1 votes

Mages are already being played.

Jessey4/22/2016, 2:50:26 AM1 votes

Only thing I hate with this "mage update" is Fiddle get a lame passive when fiddle stand for 1.5 sec get a speed buff for 1.5 sec and get a nerf to terrify(Q)? Why do this? Well we are making fiddle a jungler now. Is this what you wanted? No I want him back in midlane where he belong. Yes, he was good in the jungle in season 4, but when season 5 come rolling around you changed how jungle work and the items. So fiddle drop from being a good jungler. Even when this change it dose nothing because most jungler now have better cc or damage.