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Ryze is ridiculously weak right now.

3Power·12/30/2015, 9:12:46 PM·1 votes·636 views

Mastering champions one at a time, got to ryze and hoo boy.

q: Maybe every champion has a delay before casting spells, and I've just never noticed it before now. But the delay before casting his q has screwed me over so many times. Just enough time for someone to flash or stun or a minion to get in the way. Maybe it would be more tolerable if the range or the projectile speed was more reasonable, but it feels like for how little it does, it's way too unreliable

w: A 1 second stun.

... Are you kidding me? THIS is ryze's signature ability? A 1-1.5 second, single target stun? Let's compare.

Annie: single target/aoe 1.25-1.75 Ahri: single target 1-2, walks towards you. Ekko: AOE 2.25 all ranks Leblance: 1.5, all ranks Veigar. AOE 1.5-2.5,

And half of those champs have movement on top of their stuns.

E- Does this even do anything anymore? It strikes me as a very weak short range aoe attack. Mobafire still talks about orbs bouncing but I don't see that. Didn't it use to bounce all over the place? Reducing mr is useful if you want to risk whoever you're chasing escaping before you can land prison, and if you can reliably land the q in the midst of minions/ the enemy team.

R. The movement speed boost is so useless in this mobility controlled game it's insulting. The free CDR makes me want to not buy items like frozen heart or Iceborn gauntlet anymore since now I have 30% wasted CDR, and the only other options are to buy support items like zekes or righteous glory, go full ap, or buy non mana tank items, so it feels like I'm suboptimal no matter what way I build.

Passive. Unreliable. Maybe if I could save the stacks instead of having them decay, but there's no guarantee the passive will trigger when I need it. The most likely scenario is me being in combat, blowing all three of my spells, waiting 3 seconds for the q and e to come off cooldown, hoping I'm still alive, blowing another q and e, finally triggering the passive, and again hoping I'm still alive at that point.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong here, but it seems like the current Ryze is an immobile, unreliable piece of garbage.

14 Comments

PogChampEleGiggl12/30/2015, 9:19:41 PM3 votes

hahaaaaaaaaaaa wtf

first off, his W is not a stun (stopped reading there)

second off, you are the epitome of a basket case in cluelessness

shyie12/30/2015, 9:17:51 PM1 votes

K first, IDK if you really played Ryze like a lot, but he is not in a horrible state. Nerfs hit him hard, but not hard enough. His passive is very reliable if you can spam in the right order, his W is actually a snare and it is great in top lane for killing melees, his Q should be used after the W, the E is for pushing and combos, and the ult is 30 seconds CD and gives you insane CDR. It seems like you don't know how to combo right, and that you're just saying everything bad. Don't act like he's so nerfed that he can't be played. The new masteries are great on him and he's OP against any melee due to his range. He doesn't go mid anymore, and his mobility isn't required when you have a 1 second snare on a one second CD.

Edit: Annie stun is every 4 spells and can be avoided if you keep track of her stacks, Veigar is for people who don't understand not to walk into the big wall, Ekko's W is extremely easy to dodge, Leblancs stun is basically the same thing as Ryze but longer CD, and Ahri charm is like the smallest thing ever.

Calabok12/30/2015, 9:25:51 PM1 votes

I think they should change his skin color. Blue is soooo yesterday

Penns12/30/2015, 9:29:11 PM1 votes

And his passive basically makes his W a 4.5 or even 6 second snare (if you can use it 4 times, not sure about that tho). So yeah..

weeaboomer12/30/2015, 11:31:04 PM1 votes

Let him stay "weak." He's fucking cancer to play against. Are you kidding me with that perma root followed by fucking burst? When his ult is up along with his passive... gg.