I don't like getting 3/4's of my HP bar deleted by a single Q when she's 1/0 with a Morello. That's insanely fucking stupid, take note that this is without her E hitting me, so it's not like there was any true damage involved.
Rewt2 votes"but its her one damage ability" so ummmm..... maybe dont design champs with just 1 damage ability. just a thought.
UnboundHades1 votesEverything besides r does damage
Rewt1 votesThe argument is that her Q is her only real nuke. In reality her W isnt used for damage much, And her E doesnt do a ton. the E has pretty fair damage.
But im gonna do the math her on her Q.
So i looked up just some random zoe build and it came out to 579 AP https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/carry-the-game-s8-zoe-518473
Now the Q gets at level 18 450 base damage. and at max rank it gets another 300.
So we are at 750 damage with 0 ap. thats fucking crazy already.
now the Q has a 165% scaling so you take 579 x 1.65 and that gives you roughly 955 damage
So we are at 1,705 damage point blank.
Now the Q gains 150% increased damage at max range 1,750 x 1.5 comes out to 2,558 damage.
So zoe has access to 2,558 damage on a 6.25 second cooldown with no cdr. The Zoe build that i used to calculate this has 40% cdr so this means its only a 3.75s cooldown. (the ult at rank 16 is 5 seconds with no CDR so its 3 seconds with the cdr)
Seriously riot. come the fuck on.
doubleguac1 votesIn reality her W isnt used for damage much, And her E doesnt do a ton. the E has pretty fair damage.
I feel like people consistently underrate the impact of her W, at least in lane.
In lane, Zoe gets her balloon , what, every other wave? Anecdotally, it feels likes Hextech item actives are very common early on. Getting blasted with 2 protobelt at 7 minutes is no joke.
And good Zoe's will not just throw it at the enemy laner immediately for free damage. They will fish for an offensive drop, then all in. With protobelt or the frost hextech item, Zoe has a LOT of kill threat, even without hitting the sleep.
Outside of lane, obviously the fast majority of her damage is coming from Q. But in lane, her W feels to me like a very significant source of damage.
VeganScout1 votesWho designed her ?
Nayzumi1 votesCertaintyT
bwop1 votesRiot has a fetish for horrible game design lmao
Illâoi Evê Siôn1 votesShe's horribly annoying, but she isn't overpowered. She needs changes, not nerfs. It's sad that she needs changes from the get-go, though.
Ardènt1 votesTo be honest I don't really see a need for a Nerf. She's just like Ekko when he first came out. The only thing that I think it's a little bit broken is the radius of her Q after it bounces and how long that radius stays on the ground. It's not really a big deal and there's still counter play around it I just think that coupled with her insane kiting makes it a bit ridiculous