If you're longest gametype only lasts 25 minutes...

GetMariahCarried··6 votes·596 views

... then you might as well half your item slots Rito.

Part of the fun of progression-based game mechanics is THE PROGRESSION. Thanks for giving players a chance to say "OO! Look at all these cool new items... that I'll never get to try in 4 out of 5 games, since towers are now just glorified mega-sticks of butter waiting to be melted whenever Leo sneezes."

It doesn't matter whether you're snowballing or feeding, the game ends way too fast to get any satisfaction out of it. Don't say "oh, we'll balance these issues out over multiple patches." Games that are 15-20 minutes shorter and end by the second full item on most champs is a HUGE DIFFERENCE, which should have been OBVIOUS ON THE PBE. And all it takes is a few stat changes on towers, minions, and Herald buffs to have a more conservative, normally-paced SR coming out of the gates with this new patch. I'm multiple times more likely to hit late game in ARAM. That's saying something.

If you want shorter, fast-paced games, fine. Then change the gold source mechanics to reflect that and give people a chance to get their items sooner. Better that than changing the mechanics to let players delete their objectives with toothpicks. If you think faster items will favor carries too much, fine! Quit nerfing tank build routes!

15 Comments

Drive By Max2 votes

A, this is a pre season. It isn't the finalized product. B, typically games should end in about 25 minutes. The only reason they should take longer is due to a team being too stubborn, or the teams being balanced. New changes just make it so that some people don't have to sit through idiots on their team thinking they can win despite having no advantage whatsoever.

AtheosisX3 votes

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A, this is a pre season. It isn't the finalized product. B, typically games should end in about 25 minutes. The only reason they should take longer is due to a team being too stubborn, or the teams being balanced. New changes just make it so that some people don't have to sit through idiots on their team thinking they can win despite having no advantage whatsoever.

Huh? Pro games are rarely over before the 30 minute mark.

GetBoomedOn1 votes

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Huh? Pro games are rarely over before the 30 minute mark.

In high elo games ending at 25 minutes is not uncommon unless the winning team is trolling.

GetMariahCarried1 votes

I wonder how much freakishly shorter they will be now after this patch.

AtheosisX1 votes

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In high elo games ending at 25 minutes is not uncommon unless the winning team is trolling.

Only in the case of a real butt-whooping. Otherwise it is pretty rare.

Drive By Max1 votes

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Huh? Pro games are rarely over before the 30 minute mark.

That's because the teams are both fairly even.

AtheosisX1 votes

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That's because the teams are both fairly even.

As is the case with most ranked games.

Drive By Max1 votes

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As is the case with most ranked games.

If that was the case, then you wouldn't be complaining about shortened games. Even teams with the way it is now, will have those longer games.

AtheosisX1 votes

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If that was the case, then you wouldn't be complaining about shortened games. Even teams with the way it is now, will have those longer games.

I'm not complaining. I just find some of the statements in this thread silly. Like this on for example. I mean this post doesn't even make sense. If the game is designed to snowball, games will be shorter regardless of how even the two teams are.

Kal Vas Flam1 votes

I haven't had a single game shorter than 35 min excluding surrenders. I think you people are full of shit.

GetMariahCarried1 votes

Except 6 out of the 11 games you played the past 3 days and half the games you played the week before that. 7 out of the 20 in your recent match history were only roughly 20 minutes long. Oh, and all your matches were SR.

Trundle salutes you.

Kal Vas Flam1 votes

Those short games were all surrenders. People giving up so fast right now, meanwhile most of my wins have been comebacks, which people like you like to claim aren't possible.

GetMariahCarried1 votes

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Those short games were all surrenders. People giving up so fast right now, meanwhile most of my wins have been comebacks, which people like you like to claim aren't possible.

Comebacks aren't possible? I never said that. I never implied that. I never believed that. I've in fact called people out in other threads that claim comebacks AREN'T possible. Heck, one of the things that pisses me off since pre-season started is that no one will give a single game a chance anymore. Although I can't really blame them when a kennen/taric can backdoor two lane towers, an inhib, two nexus towers, and the actual nexus in the time it takes one teamfight mid to finish (yes, that happened). The chance for comebacks has essentially halved, and with it, people's tolerance for behind games past 20 minutes has dropped to almost nothing. It's dropped to WAY less than it should be, even for this preseason (I feel like the entire community's been replaced by a bunch of quitters, and all the draft-pick meta-ragers are suddenly flooding teambuild for who knows what reason) but still, it has dropped for a reason.

But regardless, what bothers me even MORE is people pulling lies out of their ass to support claims that are blatantly indefensible. In other words, people like you (yes, like you, and unlike you, I can actually back that). First you lied about your matches. Then you lied about me, which is where you cross the line. This is my one post to clarify the FACTS for anyone else bothering to read. Feel free to reply, but just know, I'm not wasting my time reading any more of your crap. So don't expect any further responses from me.

Beerstein1 votes

I just had one last 36, felt super long for what I'm experiencing here. A huge negative too was that at no point did it look like my team could win, even when I was 7-0-4 and everyone on our team was being positive communicating etc. once a team gets ahead this season it's just impossible to turn it back on them. Granted it was diamonds and plats vs gold and silvers but still MM put us together. The overall matching and snowball games right now is frustrating.

Ralanr1 votes

I've been having 30-40 minute games.

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