Forced back up top by bad teammates.

Lyless··2 votes·841 views

So, now I have to use Irelia instead of using a proven support that wins! This is because my teams suck. I have ww top, people who play in ranked for the first time and use some champ they never used, ect.... It is not possible to win against a team that fights together when your team is so stupid they leave mid wide open to go off and do nothing.

This game needs a new ranking system. Because the current one sucks.

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Zëz4 votes

Idk, It took me a week to get from Silver 1 to plat 5. ranking system is fine, just focus on your own gameplay rather than others, or you will never improve. Granted there are some games that are unwinnable, but don't use it as an excuse to not be able to carry yourself out of the gutter.

Lyless2 votes

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Idk, It took me a week to get from Silver 1 to plat 5. ranking system is fine, just focus on your own gameplay rather than others, or you will never improve. Granted there are some games that are unwinnable, but don't use it as an excuse to not be able to carry yourself out of the gutter.

if you don't even get out the blocks because you are down 0-6 to the enemy team before 10 mins in the game. You can't focus on your play then. Losing prevents you from moving up or did you forget that? There are a lot things, you don't know about!

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

You can't improve until you accept that you can. Blaming your team and the system won't change inefficient build paths, counter-picking yourself, and bad gameplay decisions.

Lyless2 votes

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You can't improve until you accept that you can. Blaming your team and the system won't change inefficient build paths, counter-picking yourself, and bad gameplay decisions.

Yeah because a guy playing top and going 0-3 in the first 4 mins and then a mid give away 2 more kills isn't the reason we lost. No. somehow it was me. You make no sense. And they continue to feed the enemy. I could play perfect and it wouldn't matter. The fact that some people believe your crap is even worse.

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

It's not about one game. Everyone will have games where they are objectively the best player on the team and there's nothing they can do to win. But Ranking up isn't about individual games, it's about playing many games and improving yourself.

You are still making the same mistakes visible in your match history that you've been making this whole time. Little to no wards, terrible builds, low kill participation etc. Whether you rank up or not is not a concern of mine, but if it is one of yours then you should actually make an effort instead of doing the same thing you always do.

Lyless1 votes

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You can't improve until you accept that you can. Blaming your team and the system won't change inefficient build paths, counter-picking yourself, and bad gameplay decisions.

I don't make that many mistakes.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

That belief is why you'll never stop making them.

Lyless1 votes

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That belief is why you'll never stop making them.

no simply blocking people I have blocked would be a good idea.

DrNova1 votes

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Idk, It took me a week to get from Silver 1 to plat 5. ranking system is fine, just focus on your own gameplay rather than others, or you will never improve. Granted there are some games that are unwinnable, but don't use it as an excuse to not be able to carry yourself out of the gutter.

To be fair, that's a shitty argument.

You belong to that small group of players who is very good and naturally climb. For those if us in the pool of average players (bronze to gold) that kind of thing ain't happening.

We probably never get past gold, but it isn't to much to ask to get a matchmaking that matches you with team mates around your skill level, which it doesn't.

Bot three divisions have a huge variety of skull levels (all below upper echolon skill of players of course) but there are plenty of people good down there. Not so good they can hard carry or carry every time, but good enough to not be simply bad. The problem is there are also a massive amount of people down there who truly just don't get the game, but matchmaking doesn't care about personal skill levels and the average good player can't carry such teams, even thought a high level player could.

Zëz1 votes

You are in the Elo you are in because of your level of play, I've been playing this game for two years. How did I improve? I downloaded BaronReplays and I consecutively went back and watched every single one of my games when I was in Silver and I would constantly look at the games and see what I could have done differently or, why did I die there.

You have to prioritize on mistakes also. If your playing in the jungle for instance, If you see ANYBODY, and I mean anybody, Past the middle of the lane, It is almost a guaranteed kill.

Also, answer me this, How do you balance a matchmaking system when 90% of the community is in Silver and Bronze? You can't.

GloryBoyGBE1 votes

No this isn't a single player game. Elo doesn't take any stats from the player,just whether you're getting a victory or defeat along with the 4 other people on your team in games. If you really are skilled and just get bad teammates at times It's just bad luck. Ranked alot of the time is being lucky enough to not get bad teammates.

hailikecookie2 votes

Unless you a smurfing, there is no getting out of bronze (let alone bronze 4) with a "solo carry" mentality. I mean, it is possible, its just really really hard and there are easier ways to go about it.

Teamwork is a massive part of this, and if you are going into a game with the expectation of a potato team, you aren't going to be playing your best. You are also more likely to flame, which in turn makes everyone else play worse. The ranked system is fine, you get matches with people who are generally your own skill level.

Own your mistakes and learn from them! This is how you will climb.

In general, to climb:

Join a premade team Bronze IV is the ultimate cesspit for trolls and people who play like bots. Playing ranked is like dipping your hand into medical waste and hoping you don't get hepatitis. Playing as a ranked 5 will definitely lessen your chances of being matched with trollers/afks/other toxins. It also allows you to become familiar with the play patterns of your teammates (so you don't have to keep adjusting your style every game) and you have way better communication. With the implementation of a dynamic queue where this is possible, there is literally no reason not to. You also get lots of cool bonuses like extra IP, mastery points and Hextech stuff (soon™).

Play comfort picks rather than counter picks. A lot of people in bronze get caught up in trying to play counter picks, even if they have no idea how to play the champion. Same happens when the "FOTM OP" isn't banned. A lot of people are going to be playing "op" champs in order to get out, and the likelihood of them sucking is high (look at all the bronze v vaynes and yasuos). Playing a comfort pick means that you will not only have better matchup and skill knowledge, it means that you have more options on how you want to play (aggro/safe/roam). Keep in mind that your comfort picks may be banned, I would suggest picking up a couple of champs (also helpful if you are last pick and your team is missing something like a tank).

3. Get super good at two roles. Dynamic queue allows you to choose two roles, so you have 100% chance of getting of your fave/best roles. Pick up a few comfort champs in each, learn all there is to know about them so you know things like build paths and matchups like the back of your hand.

_Note: I would suggest picking 3 champs for each role you want to play. Pick an AD, an AP, and a tank so that you are able to fill what your team needs. Playing Raka every single game isn't going to work all the time. _

For support: Raka (utility), Annie (AP), Leo/tahm (tank) For top: Cho (AP tank), Irelia (AD tank), Mundo (tank)

4. Revisit some of the basic league skills. Things like CS, warding, positioning, teamcomps, and being a nice person and encouraging your team. If you need help with some of this, you could consider hiring a coach.

Note: also check your masteries and rune pages are the best they can be.

**5. Keep a ranked diary. ** Most of my improvement comes from my ranked diary. After every game I write down who I was playing, my score, CS, wards placed, LP gained/lost and a quick summary of the game. I also like to write down 3 things I did well, and 3 things I need to improve. That way, you are really processing the game and learning from your mistakes. It also gives you something to consciously work towards improving in the next game.

TL:DR, Improve yourself. You perform worse than the average player in almost all respects, and I can tell you now, that isn't your teams fault.

Good luck, may the elo be ever in your favour ♥

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

I have never actually seen that website before.

However, it was quite accurate evaluating me, so I like it.

Lyless1 votes

{quoted}

Unless you a smurfing, there is no getting out of bronze (let alone bronze 4) with a "solo carry" mentality. I mean, it is possible, its just really really hard and there are easier ways to go about it.

Teamwork is a massive part of this, and if you are going into a game with the expectation of a potato team, you aren't going to be playing your best. You are also more likely to flame, which in turn makes everyone else play worse. The ranked system is fine, you get matches with people who are generally your own skill level.

Own your mistakes and learn from them! This is how you will climb. Bronze IV is the ultimate cesspit for trolls and people who play like bots. Playing ranked is like dipping your hand into medical waste and hoping you don't get hepatitis. Playing as a ranked 5 will definitely lessen your chances of being matched with trollers/afks/other toxins. It also allows you to become familiar with the play patterns of your teammates (so you don't have to keep adjusting your style every game) and you have way better communication. With the implementation of a dynamic queue where this is possible, there is literally no reason not to. You also get lots of cool bonuses like extra IP, mastery points and Hextech stuff (soon™). A lot of people in bronze get caught up in trying to play counter picks, even if they have no idea how to play the champion. Same happens when the "FOTM OP" isn't banned. A lot of people are going to be playing "op" champs in order to get out, and the likelihood of them sucking is high (look at all the bronze v vaynes and yasuos). Playing a comfort pick means that you will not only have better matchup and skill knowledge, it means that you have more options on how you want to play (aggro/safe/roam). Keep in mind that your comfort picks may be banned, I would suggest picking up a couple of champs (also helpful if you are last pick and your team is missing something like a tank). Dynamic queue allows you to choose two roles, so you have 100% chance of getting of your fave/best roles. Pick up a few comfort champs in each, learn all there is to know about them so you know things like build paths and matchups like the back of your hand. For top: Cho (AP tank), Irelia (AD tank), Mundo (tank)_ Things like CS, warding, positioning, teamcomps, and being a nice person and encouraging your team. If you need help with some of this, you could consider hiring a coach. Most of my improvement comes from my ranked diary. After every game I write down who I was playing, my score, CS, wards placed, LP gained/lost and a quick summary of the game. I also like to write down 3 things I did well, and 3 things I need to improve. That way, you are really processing the game and learning from your mistakes. It also gives you something to consciously work towards improving in the next game.

TL:DR, Improve yourself. You perform worse than the average player in almost all respects, and I can tell you now, that isn't your teams fault.

Good luck, may the elo be ever in your favour ♥

One I have improved myself. Two, you need to be a better player before you look down on me! Three, None of those 5 things apply to me.

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