I know you are currently working on lowering ekko's base damage and increasing his ap, but by doing this you are going to make him heavily rely on ap, which is going to cause him to be easily countered, just build qss and your fine. Ekko was special to this game because he was the first melee mage and I feel as you are taking away from hybrid and ad ekkos as well by make his abilities scale directly with ap. Maybe ekko scales with items both ap and ad?
Jbels6 votesThe first melee mage? Wuuuuuut....?
Sum Wun Speshal3 votes
Kodyack1 votes
as well, depending on who you consider to be a "mage"
Sum Wun Speshal1 votesIf we widen the criteria to a point where falls under the "mage" category, I insist on calling AP 
a "mage" as well.
Basically everyone doing magic damage is a mage now.
are mages now for all I care.
EVERYBODY GETS TO BE A MAGE!!!
xX1SaVaGe3Xx1 votesNone of the champions listed have a Q that has range, and have a passive based on connecting 3 times. Btw just because a melee champion scales off ap does not make them a melee mage like ekko just fyi the kits are completely different and playstyles are different.
Sum Wun Speshal1 votesAll of them have ranged Q's except which slightly extends her auto attack range.
Yeah, they don't have any 3-hit mechanic but I fail to see how this has anything to do with being a mage.
has a ranged Q and a 3-hit mechanic and it doesn't make him a mage, right?
and are within the same category of champions and they also have completely different play styles.
But okay, lets tighten up the requirement for "being a mage". and are obviously assassins, but so is . He has the same hit and run patterns as and . None of them can withstand prolonged trades while standing in the middle of 4 people. (Unless you play Tank of course but this is a different story)
Barefoot Bub2 votesTank Ekko is too strong atm.
ßurst2 votesLet's not add counter play here now silly riot
Slythion1 votesSo they are lowering his base damage and increasing his AP scaling to get rid of Tank/AD Ekko and encourage the AP melee assassin kit...and you're complaining that they are nerfing Tank/AD Ekko?
0ur0boros1 votesLowering his base damage does not reduce his scaling....it reduces his effectiveness early game.
o Maui o1 votesHe's not even listed as a mage, he's an assassin/fighter with AP scaling just like Fizz.
There are a bunch of champions with the Mage tag who are melee. Diana and Kassadin and Kat all come to mind, for starters. Melee AP mids aren't anything new. There are a few tank/mages as well, and they are all melee.
Nekusen1 votesare they? where did they say that?
numbers are not issue, it's that he doesn't have an assassin kit as they want him to be.
EVERYTHING on his kit is extremely easy to dodge, while assassins have ensured damage, be it from point and click spells (ults) or very easy to land.
While the most reliable damage has, comes from autoattacks, which requires him to stay in melee range for long periods, hence, the best build on him is as a tank/bruiser.
With this kit, he will never be an assassin regardless of how much they tune the numbers unless they tweak his abilities to make them easy to land.
Catastrop1 votes"First melee mage"
Not even a mage. (before his much needed gutting way back when) says Hi.
I'm sorry, but I don't recall seeing any AD scalings in Ekko's kit, so I also don't see how he's a hybrid. Another thing, an AP Assassin relying heavily on AP to do anything? The horror.
