I think sense key stones had to be nerfed to only be on champion hits, and a lot of champions have already had their abilites changed to not affect towers. Most recent being trundle. Can we please nerf Xin heal to not apply for auto attacking a tower or inhibitors. Its pretty annoying when he has devour, rage blade, spirit visage, bork, etc.. I'm talking full health towers while you are attacking the man and he just autos the tower then dives you.
xxxDogmanxxx1 votesNerf a champion that's already been nerfed 14 consecutive times and then left to rot, because he can heal a large amount of health at full build? Really man, really?
KłedGod1 votesIts not that big a nerf if he still gets life steal and heals from farming or fighting champs. To get it off tanking towers because you cant die even the 2-4 people are hitting you is retarded. They just changed trundle Q not to hit towers. Most likely why it destroys them to fast just like they did for ashe Q.
xxxDogmanxxx1 votesXin's Heal literally heals him for just 50 hp at max rank every third hit, assuming he's not building AP. If you somehow can't kill him under your tower with 2-4 people, then that's YOUR fault. If he is building AP, then that means he's supposed to heal for a lot, because that is the point of having an AP ratio on his heal. It's his reward for building AP and sacrificing AD.
KłedGod2 votesdevour and rage blade is ap...then you consider the bonus heals of spirit visage and that he auto attacks stupid fast....you act like champions never been nerfed just for a item look at sejuani shes been nerfed just because of jg items
xxxDogmanxxx2 votesI'm just telling you your expectations are unreasonable. You're the one who wants to nerf the sustain of an already mediocre champion who's already been nerfed multiple times just because he can heal well like he's supposed to after building AP. Four of you not being able to kill one champion with no escape skill under your tower speaks nothing of how OP an AP Xin Zhao's heal is, and everything of how badly coordinated you were. Seriously, did none of you think to chain your CC? Don't cry for a nerf just because you were outplayed. Accept it and do better next time.
InHaruhiWeTrust1 votesi just played with a xin on my team and he killed both the nexus turrets and the nexus while tanking minions(our minions were in front of our base) and he was gaining health.... his build was 
he was healing 600 hp every third auto. when he killed the second tower(which both ramp up in dmg over time) he was full hp. tell me that's not broken pls like dear god! if he was sacrificing a shit ton of dmg that would be one thing but he still does a shit ton of dmg the only person in the game that did more dmg than him was me as 
and i was wreking shit 14/9/16
edit: the reason i did so much dmg was this 
xxxDogmanxxx1 votesIf he was wrecking just second to you, then he definitely got fed and deserved to be able to do that. That's not broken, that's just normal snowballing. I recently did the same using Blitzcrank in my ranked account. Backdoor'd two nexus turrets and the nexus itself while tanking minions with 
. I didn't end at full health, but it was healthy enough that it wasn't a close call.
InHaruhiWeTrust1 votesno its called a finished build doesn't matter if hes fed. "normal snowballing" no champ should be able to do that except a 800 stack nasus. i'll believe your blitz story when i see it cause that sounds ridiculous
xxxDogmanxxx2 votes"No champ should be able to do that". Gives a champ like Nasus who's expected to be able to do it. Amazing man. So basically what you say goes, right? Why exactly should a Nasus be able to do it but not a full build AP Xin Zhao? Nasus's kit allows him to be able to do it. Similarly, AP Xin Zhao needs full item build and his kit.
As for the Blitz game, it was actually pretty damn easy. I had enough ap to one shot minions with my ult and enough mana to increase my damage to ridiculous amounts paired with my muramana toggle plus iceborn plus E. Enough armor to feel nearly no damage from the creeps and reach an entire creepwave with my iceborn range. Healing with visage and gunblade and iceborn aoe and my passive lightning. Super fast attackspeed with w. 40% cdr to spam abilities. Chunked the first Nexus Turret, when i got low on health, one shot the huge minion wave I built up and heal right back to full health. Moved away after killing the first turret to reset the damage. Did it again for the next turret. Two shot the enemy tristana who tp'd to stop me. Whammed on the nexus as the enemy alistar respawned but couldn't do shit to me and my team's akali triple killed the rest of the enemy team at our base.
But you probably won't believe it because you can't do it and if you can't then no one else should be able to, right?
InHaruhiWeTrust1 votesfirst off calm down. there's no need to use straw man arguments to make yourself feel superior. there are always exceptions to the rule "so basically what you say goes, right?" <- i never said this, so moving on. i have a problem with nasus because i have a problem with infinite stacking on champs like him a viegar in general. i don't think its OP in most games, but it is OP at some point idk at what amount of stacks approximately it becomes OP though. it's mostly that the playstyle of "afk farming until you are unbeatable" is an unhealthy play style for the game imo. that being said it takes alot longer to get to 800 stacks and full build for nasus than just full build for xin or any other champ for that matter. its still frustrating to deal with, but at least its more understandable. xin's heal on towers is most likely going to be removed eventually when he gets a gameplay rework/update the only reason its still in the game is because riot hasn't gotten around to messing with him since hes overall in a decent spot. my biggest problem is that, other than irelia's W no other champ can heal off towers(at least that i can think of), its a very old mechanic left over from lol's early days that just hasn't been dealt with yet. overall it's not a big deal as taking towers is the only broken thing about AP xin everything else about it is fine, but when you do see this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlDqcjEjm6I it in game it just makes you go WTF why is that a thing still? like i said riot is going to fix it eventually i would just like it sooner rather than later since it shouldn't be that hard or take very long at all to fix.
"But you probably won't believe it because you can't do it and if you can't then no one else should be able to, right?" lol now you're just being butthurt. i'm not gonna believe your blitz story just cause you tell me too lol i don't think that blitz has the kit to make him capable of what you are talking about unless i'm missing something. a video of this would easily change my mind.
if you reply to this then pls leave the straw at home and make an actual argument or there is point in pretending like we are having a discussion.
Starstorm1 votesI completely agree that with current item synergy, Hybrid Xin is ridiculously op. I have seen at least 5 different players totally dominate games with it this past week or two and they are always completely unstoppable, dishing out tons of damage and tanky to boot.
xxxDogmanxxx1 votesAm I seriously the only one who doesn't find him that strong? I'm always happy to see that the enemy Xin Zhao is building ap. That means he's so easy to shutdown. There are plenty of champions that I've used to shut down hybrid and ap Xin zhaos. Plenty of champions also outright counter him like Jax, Malphite, and Rammus. He's also shutdown by randuin's and frozen heart. Vayne, Quinn, Evelynn, etc. shit on him with their stealth or blind or hard disengage.
IsoVhell1 votesSo people find a way to build a good champ properly and you can't so nerf him!! lol He is fine as is!