Revert the Volibear nerfs

Grizzlpaw·8/20/2017, 3:40:28 PM·29 votes·1,292 views

They're not needed anymore. The nerfs were fine last season when attack speed alone was enough to clear the jungle quickly, but this new jungle heavily rewards AoE over single target clearing. There's virtually no reason to pick the guy anymore, other champions not only out farm him, but also gank more reliably and outscale him.

How am I meant to deal with a Kayn when he's basically counterjungling my botside by the time I kill my second buff. You cant wait to outscale the guy, he'll just ult you in teamfights and laugh as your 4k health becomes his 4k health.

How am i meant to be more useful than Warwick when he essentially does everything Volibear does, but better.

And how am i meant to be able to fall back on my late game when Janna and Sona are allowing even immobile adcs to survive my W burst and then outheal my flimsy AA's.

He needs something, there are off meta junglers that do a better job than he does right now.

12 Comments

IceKingChernobog8/20/2017, 7:27:10 PM6 votes

Volibear is this weird amalgamation of a juggernaut and a tank, but can't do either roles properly. His CC is not significant enough to make him a tank and his damage output is way below what a juggernaut is supposed to deal out. His kit is extremely lackluster as well, all his power is jammed onto his W that is gated by a high cooldown and the rest of his kit is extremely binary and boring. The items he uses don't really help much either. He thrives on attack speed yet he needs HP to actually be relevant but he also needs CDR and the stuff he builds barely offers any of that unless it's item 3078 but that item is too expensive for him to rush on a jungler's budget. For him to be relevant, riot is gonna have to break him like what they did with Nasus and the buffs to him barely helps him achieve much.

Volibear needs a full VGU, until then Warwick is pretty much what volibear wishes to be.

TheDesoIation8/20/2017, 4:04:31 PM4 votes

Those buffs wouldnt really help him,his attack speed isnt the problem with volibear right now.For voli to become viable again he would need to be totally reworked,his kit can be so easily exploited

NinjaGuy698/20/2017, 3:43:56 PM3 votes

Pretty sure that Reav3 said that Volibear is a candidate for a full VGU sometime in the future so I'm not sure if they'll do any work on him in terms of minor balance changes. They probably want to wait until he's ready for his rework.

Giggling Granny8/21/2017, 2:06:54 AM1 votes

Volibear power is on his Q...and guess what in this game the enemy need to be afk in order to get hit by his Q.....

No matter what you do in volibear he cant be a top tier jungle atm...he is doing his job when OTP play him but that it....and btw Kayn and every other type of champion like kayn are meant to be good in the jungle...you are a tank...tanks always suffer in jg...riot have try very much to work it but it never work..unless you are some type of OP champions like ZAC or Sej...that you will need to have 20 nerfs in the row like they did to this 2 champions in order to bring you in some normal state....

So yeah you will need to wait till 2020 till his rework