Big list of needed reworks, nerfs and buffs in my opinion!

Noob Slaýer··1 votes·427 views

Champions to buff: Zac, Yorick (rework), Vladimir, Urgot (rework), Twisted Fate, Syndra, KogMaw, Gangplank (rework), and Aatrox.

Champions to Nerf: Xerath, Vi, Velkoz, Sion, Riven, Morgana, Lissandra, Leona, Leesin, Leblanc, Katarina, Kalista, Janna, Irelia, Annie, and Zed

Champions to delete: Teemo.

PS: If you want my opinion about champions being Nerfed/Buffed ask me. I will tell you my reasoning behind it.

10 Comments

Jamaree3 votes

I feel like half of these are bias, with Teemo being incredible bias.

Noob Slaýer1 votes

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I feel like half of these are bias, with Teemo being incredible bias.

Meh, you didint mention any champions to me so i cant tell you anything else.

Jamaree2 votes

Vel Koz, Sion, Leblanc, Riven, and Xerath, and Teemo I suppose then.

Noob Slaýer1 votes

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Vel Koz, Sion, Leblanc, Riven, and Xerath, and Teemo I suppose then.

Vel Koz- Usually played as a support but his mana cost are ridiculous low and spammable with high base damage which at low levels which absolutely dominates. His ult also has huge base damage so he can have 0 ap and his ult does as much as a 800ap Lux ult. Not including his passive.

Sion: Unkillable tank. Also his ult can 1shot a ADC if they get cauht out of position even with a single damage item. ( I do this alot)

Leblanc: I main her and wreck face. W over wall Q+R+E (ignite if you feel like it) = free kill on all squishys when you have 1 or so items. Ungankable because of W and ult and passive!

Riven: You can be 10-1-10 vs a 3-7-0 riven. You can have same farm even. She will still smack you in the face if you 1v1 her. Her ult pretty much executes you at 35% hp. She has a huge shield, stun, knock up and yup.. i shall say no more about that toxic champion

Xerath: I use to main him and his Q does damage way to much damage for a range like that. Its hard to dodge a skilled xerath and you ultimately force the poor bloke in mid to base after a couple of unavoidable hits. Another is I abuse him hard. I Q the adc from a full screen away then i shoot my ult at him and make the game deciding fight a 4v5. His ult is easy to hit if you know how to use it right. What you do is spam all 3 at once.

Teemo: i was joking about him. Everybody hates his shrooms though!

Jamaree1 votes

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Vel Koz- Usually played as a support but his mana cost are ridiculous low and spammable with high base damage which at low levels which absolutely dominates. His ult also has huge base damage so he can have 0 ap and his ult does as much as a 800ap Lux ult. Not including his passive.

Now is this based off actual numbers or just what you think? You can't ignore various factors of the move just to try and say something is OP. Yes, if you stand in all 5 ticks of the move, the Velkoz's will do more damage, that being said, it comes in ticks which means you can avoid the latter ones and it will then do less damage then Lux's. Also, Lux's has more range and a shorter CD, or does that not count because reasons? Sure he gets lots of CC and low mana cost...because he has no mobility, one stun and dead.

Sion: Unkillable tank. Also his ult can 1shot a ADC if they get cauht out of position even with a single damage item. ( I do this alot)

No you haven't, you have never one shot an ADC with your ulti...ever. And yeah, he is a tanky tank, it is what tanks do. They have lower DPS but their sustained damage is high in the sense that they can keep it coming with their various amount of CC. People want tanks this strong.

Leblanc: W over wall Q+R+E (ignite if you feel like it) = free kill on all squishys when you have 1 or so items. Ungankable because of W and ult and passive!

I'm not even sure with LB, she lost her silence and her win rate went up, from 44% to 47%, it is strange.

Xerath: I use to main him and his Q does damage way to much damage for a range like that. Its hard to dodge a skilled xerath and you ultimately force the poor bloke in mid to base after a couple of unavoidable hits. Another is I abuse him hard. I Q the adc from a full screen away then i shoot my ult at him and make the game deciding fight a 4v5. His ult is easy to hit if you know how to use it right. What you do is spam all 3 at once.

Who is also a non mobile champion so yes, he should get long range. Cut his range and then it comes down to why play him over Annie or whoever? It isn't that hard to dodge, and you can juke it.

Teemo: i was joking about him. Everybody hates his shrooms though!

This is bias, unfair bias. Just because he has annoying things in his kit doesn't mean he should be deleted. I think Aatrox's infinite sustain is jank. I think the CC output of Zac is stupid...on top of me finding it weird that you are whining about Sion being an unkillable heavy sustain damage tank...yet saying that you want a different champion to do the exact same thing, a bit backwards to me.

Also what you able to do well with at lower elo might not be so strong at higher elo. Yeah, people you play with are bad, they don't know how to dodge, itemize or position so yeah, of course it is easy to stomp on them hard core. I do the same with Volibear and Mordekaiser, do they need nerfs?

Though, your list of buffs is ok, but even then, some of the champions that are currently on that list, the community begged for them to get nerfed and in cases like Vlad, he doesn't need buffs, he just needs the meta to shift to a position where he is strong.

Noob Slaýer1 votes

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Now is this based off actual numbers or just what you think? You can't ignore various factors of the move just to try and say something is OP. Yes, if you stand in all 5 ticks of the move, the Velkoz's will do more damage, that being said, it comes in ticks which means you can avoid the latter ones and it will then do less damage then Lux's. Also, Lux's has more range and a shorter CD, or does that not count because reasons? Sure he gets lots of CC and low mana cost...because he has no mobility, one stun and dead.

No you haven't, you have never one shot an ADC with your ulti...ever. And yeah, he is a tanky tank, it is what tanks do. They have lower DPS but their sustained damage is high in the sense that they can keep it coming with their various amount of CC. People want tanks this strong.

I'm not even sure with LB, she lost her silence and her win rate went up, from 44% to 47%, it is strange.

Who is also a non mobile champion so yes, he should get long range. Cut his range and then it comes down to why play him over Annie or whoever? It isn't that hard to dodge, and you can juke it.

This is bias, unfair bias. Just because he has annoying things in his kit doesn't mean he should be deleted. I think Aatrox's infinite sustain is jank. I think the CC output of Zac is stupid...on top of me finding it weird that you are whining about Sion being an unkillable heavy sustain damage tank...yet saying that you want a different champion to do the exact same thing, a bit backwards to me.

Also what you able to do well with at lower elo might not be so strong at higher elo. Yeah, people you play with are bad, they don't know how to dodge, itemize or position so yeah, of course it is easy to stomp on them hard core. I do the same with Volibear and Mordekaiser, do they need nerfs?

Though, your list of buffs is ok, but even then, some of the champions that are currently on that list, the community begged for them to get nerfed and in cases like Vlad, he doesn't need buffs, he just needs the meta to shift to a position where he is strong.

My experience because i know how to actually play the champs. Yes i have one shot the ADC with my ult and Q combo. Leblanc is op because she does a 1.8k combo of damage not including ignite because i play her.. like i said facing seasoned players on those champs is not fun at all. Que with me ill show you how its done!!!!!!!!!!!

Jamaree1 votes

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My experience because i know how to actually play the champs. Yes i have one shot the ADC with my ult and Q combo.

No...you haven't, not while not building only one damage item you haven't.

Leblanc is op because she does a 1.8k combo of damage not including ignite because i play her.. like i said facing seasoned players on those champs is not fun at all. Que with me ill show you how its done!!!!!!!!!!!

No thanks, and LB, I'm not even sure, any real damage nerfs and there is no reason to play her over other APCs.

Noob Slaýer1 votes

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No...you haven't, not while not building only one damage item you haven't.

No thanks, and LB, I'm not even sure, any real damage nerfs and there is no reason to play her over other APCs.

Jesus christ you are a noob. You obviously have never seen leblanc in action on good players with her..

Jamaree1 votes

Diamond and Plat...yup, clearly I'm the noob. Yes, I have seen LB burst people before, and like I said, any real damage nerfs and she would be useless. Why would you take a gimp damage APC low CC having APC over any other champion in the game?

ModThe Djinn1 votes

{quoted}Sion: Unkillable tank. Also his ult can 1shot a ADC if they get cauht out of position even with a single damage item.

I think you're overestimating Sion's damage potential. His maximum physical damage at level 16 is 900 + 80% of his bonus AD. At level 16 mini-Gnar (the champion with the lowest base health in the game) has 1515 hit points. Even if your Ultimate dealt True Damage instead of Physical you'd need to somehow have 769 bonus AD in order to one-shot him with just your Ultimate...and that value is impossible to reach.

Even a fully maximized R+Q combo with a damage item won't do it. Assuming your 128 base damage and an extra 75 from Hydra, you've got an Ult for 960 + a Q for 665 damage. This would be enough to kill mini-Gnar, but every champion has at least 25 base armor, which equates to a 20% reduction in damage taken, meaning that you're dealing a maximum of 1300 damage, which won't quite do the trick.

I suppose you could manage it with 3 large damage items against someone with mini-Gnar levels of health and no defenses, but, if you're managing to land both a max-range, max-damage Sion Ultimate and then fully charge your Q on the same target I'm actually alright with you earning the kill.

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