Why do people get so worked up over the most minor things?

Silly Neeko·Apr 28, 2017·3 votes·280 views

Like really..... When people try to make a big huge deal and MUST point out that "this champion is considered a juggernaut, not a tank".......... This is not just to the most recent one, but ive seen this many MANY times and its just silly.

If a juggernaut is the tankiest person on your team, with 3k+ hp, and about 120 resists and armor...... That is your tank. Do not try complicating it just because its forums or because you feel its your moral obligation to point out that they are the tanky subclass of the Fighters.....

Its like those people that if someone says "their on their way, careful" and someone MUST say its "they're". Grammatically yes, you are correct, but the amount of caring that is given over that most minor of details when the point is understood is just silly.

12 Comments

EndlessSorcererApr 28, 20173 votes

It can be difficult to have a conversation if two people are using different terminology.

If someone says "tanks" (i.e. Garen, Darius) are dealing too much damage and someone else argues that tanks (i.e. Alistar, Braum) aren't, the discussion isn't particularly useful.

This is why we have specific terminology to begin with.

Silly NeekoApr 28, 20171 votes

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It can be difficult to have a conversation if two people are using different terminology.

If someone says "tanks" (i.e. Garen, Darius) are dealing too much damage and someone else argues that tanks (i.e. Alistar, Braum) aren't, the discussion isn't particularly useful.

This is why we have specific terminology to begin with.

While i do agree with the need to identify it if the distinction is needed to be pointed out for a conversation..... Are you going to be pointing that out in game?

For example, if you have a Juggernaut top, are you going to be saying.... And i quote.... "gg, no tank"? No. Because the Juggernaut will be tanky and thus will be refered to in game as a tank.

While the distinction of the sub class is good in figuring out why they do more damage.... Going with your example..... There is no need to point out that the class is "not a tank" when apart from very certain cases, they still have to do the same things as tanks....... Such as multiple combo rotations to kill enemies (normally), soak up a lot more damage than most of the team (especially true when you are the tankiest person on the team), and often times locking down the enemy with some kind of CC (in Mordekaiser's case it would be with item 3116 because he has no engage tool such as Darius's hook and Garens speed boost).

So why is it that the distinction NEEDS to be made almost every time someone "applies the wrong terminology to the champion" same as there is almost always that person that if someone uses the wrong "they're, their, there" that must be pointed out? Sure you make everyone else laugh because that is effectively trying to make a fool out of someone "cant you use proper grammar? Is english not your first language?" but at the same time you are trying to make a fool out of someone.

Yes if they are being annoying and trying to play League like they are playing Age of Empires telling everyone what to do, what to build, and say everyone is stupid....... By all means, point out every grammatical mistake and misused terminology they make all the way back till they were in 1st grade......

If they are trying to figure out why a "tank does so much damage" you can say that "they actually are the subclass of a fighter, and that class is known for its superb fighting potential"....... But the last case (which i believe you saw, i remember your name and commentary on that thread), and multiple that ive had before that..... It has been times that the distinction really did not need to be made.

EndlessSorcererApr 28, 20172 votes

I've never really seen people make such distinctions in-game. I've only really seen them on the boards for purposes of discussions (where establishing a common base is important).

There are a couple situations class distinctions may be valid corrections but you would typically be better off changing your wording.

For example, "the enemy team has no tank" could be rephrased to "the enemy team lacks initiation" to clarify your intent/meaning.

Silly NeekoApr 28, 20171 votes

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I've never really seen people make such distinctions in-game. I've only really seen them on the boards for purposes of discussions (where establishing a common base is important).

Common base sure, but you notice..... That first bit there...... It is done on the boards. Even when talking about "the tank was doing a lot of damage" on the boards people say "thats a juggernaut not a tank"........ People use the terminology they would use in game. In that game they are the tank. In that game that tank was doing a lot of damage. If people question why they do so much damage, THEN it is fine to point that out. Otherwise it is not needed for the purposes of the commentary "that tank did a lot of damage."

RalanrApr 28, 20172 votes

Often people are questioning why they did so much damage.

What is confusing here?

RalanrApr 28, 20172 votes

Personally? In game I will not go out of my way to try to explain what a tank is. I should focus on other things and adapt to the lack of CC my top laner is bringing.

But in a forum discussion? I'll try to understand what exactly people are referring to and explain it to the best of my ability. Sometimes that involves telling the difference between a tank or a juggernaut.

If someone complains "Mundo does too much damage for a tank!" I'll just say, "He's a juggernaut. He's supposed to hurt."

If someone said, "Even as a juggernaut, I think Mundo does too much damage" or similar, I'd probably go into that discussion with the mindset of discussing Mundo's damage output.

Quick question: is this about the Instalok video?

RenownedWheat42Apr 28, 20172 votes

Because the distinction is important.

Garen =/= Sion.

Truly PridefulApr 28, 20172 votes

This is how I choose to think of it :

Juggernaut - "Tank" with high damage and no/very little CC, builds a lot of hp/damage hybrid items and medium resists and tries to kill everything. Poor at protecting carries.

Actual Tanks - Build almost exclusively hp and resists with many forms of low-moderate cooldown CCs. Very good at protecting carries.

AnastaeciaApr 28, 20171 votes

LOL..you two just proved his point. He was using the "tank/juggernaut" thing as an example, and you guys started nit picking the example.

RalanrApr 28, 20171 votes

Actually Sorcerer explained it pretty much perfectly.

EndlessSorcererApr 28, 20172 votes

Since they used the distinction between tanks and juggernauts as an example in their question, I used it as an example in my answer.

It is a common explanation format, not nitpicking.

Dale WardarkApr 28, 20171 votes

I play Garen, a Juggernaut, with usually full tank items. When playing him, I call him a tank because I stand in the front line and disrupt, but for Leagues purposes he's not a true tank. No disruption besides a silence, and a somewhat unreliable survivability skill. He's still a juggernaut, and he still deals damage when not building damage from the villain mechanic, but he's not a traditional tank.