Any plans for Viktor, RIOT?

Biotic·4/4/2018, 2:57:35 PM·3 votes·531 views

Even after all the changes to midlane, he is still sitting at a(as of now) 47% winrate. The buff to his ultimate in 8.4 wasnt really helpful and with the new presence of mind, minion changes, and the minion aggro changes from 8.4 all leave him in a sub-par spot. Also the change to manaflow band isnt very helpful since you have to tradeoff celerity to make it worthwhile(and he still has no mana-efficiency even with the change).

Do you have any plans for viktor..................................and will........[ricklessabandon]............be head of the changes?

:( .....................makes me worried

7 Comments

Thorn Fierce Red4/4/2018, 2:59:12 PM1 votes

U better Pray bruh!

webstar19954/4/2018, 3:23:19 PM1 votes

Viktor is my favorite champ. lvl7 I thought he was going to be super good again, which he was, for ONE PATCH! When Viktor summoner 6 summoner 4 (fleetfoot work) item 3198 item 3025 item 3001 item 3135 item 3151 item 3158 was very strong. Then the changes came. Luden's is not great on him. You cannot really build tear because his Hex item is a MUST and tear would take too long to scale. Lich Bane is good, but he is lacking overall. Sad really. I was so excited for a week. Now its back to me just having to outplay like a god to beat champs like Lux.

doubleguac4/4/2018, 4:02:19 PM1 votes

Viktor felt really good for one or two patches after his Q buff. I've been struggling a bit with him again, though. It feels like every other mage got buffed in lane with the item changes. But Viktor can't really enjoy the new items, since he's still forced to spend his first 2250 gold on augments. If you take Viktor and any other mage, and compare their items at 3300 gold, the difference is just nuts. item 3285 or item 3040 vs. hexcore level 2 (which gives about 60 AP maybe at that point) plus a blasting rod. The difference is even worse if you compare first back (hexcore mk1 vs 1250 gold spent on any other items).

I get the logic of scaling teamfight champions needing to have weak early games, but I don't feel like this paradigm is applied fairly. There are lots of mages who scale well, and also have great team fight presence, but who aren't saddled with a crap early game. Anivia with item 3040 and item 3027 also scales incredibly well, and has many of the same strengths as Viktor (wave clear, zoning), but she enjoys an infinitely safer and smoother laning phase and build path. Azir is a hyperscaling mage, and he can straight up bully in lane. Orianna maybe doesn't scale quite as hard, but she's strong at literally every point in the game (she definitely doesn't fall off at any point) and can basically perma-zone other mages off creeps.

I'd love to see Viktor get some base stats back on his augments. Or lower the mana cost a bit on either his E or his Q, since he is one of the only mages in the game who doesn't get to rush a mana item.

Or, hell, just tie the damn augments to his ult, khazix-style. The whole hexcore system is an interesting gimmick in theory, but in practice, all it does is restrict his builds and make him incredibly gold dependent. Which is maybe important to his balance, IDK. Maybe viktor would be broken if he had more item flexibility, that's a real possibility.

But just to be completely clear, the hexcore system certainly isn't a fun feature. I don't enjoy being forced to spend gold on items that give nothing but scaling AP. It feels worse and worse with every new season, since Riot is moving more and more away from items that just provide stats. Every item now has a fun and interesting unique passive or active. Meanwhile, Viktor is lashed to his huge AP stat stick.

This is coming from a long-time Viktor player, btw. I have 250k mastery on him, and I've been playing him very avidly since season 3, way before his rework. I consider myself a very dedicated fan of the champ, and I don't really enjoy the hexcore system, and I can't imagine how any person could. It's one of the only passives in the game that feels like a limitation more than a strength.