Title says it all. It's like 1.5x the normal auto attack animation and it's really difficult to use effectively as a auto reset, even on low-mobility champs that you E on top of. If not, can you have it extend Talon's attack range a bit so most champs can't walk out of it?
Calabok4 votesYou mean buff him?
No
Krispy Krisps10 votesWouldn't be much of a buff. Doesn't change his damage at all, just how it feels to get it off and maybe 0.05 seconds of time where you are in a vulnerable spot with no cooldowns. Honestly, it helps low-level players 300% more than pros. Helps fix their difficulty CSing under tower (by one minion, so that's not op) and the accidental "I pressed Q but it didn't go off!" cases.
RogueWill3 votesi.e. making him feel less clunky?
Epilogue of Life1 votes[deleted]
Troll for Trump1 votesWhat the actual F? There's so many things wrong with this.. I.. I..
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Crossette1 votesWhat did he say to either get it removed or have to delete it?
Troll for Trump1 votesBasically he used a ton of profanity hate speech etc, because he disagree with OP. And now im being downvoted by people are stalking me because they can't stop crying about kass and getting called out for it.
Crossette1 votesPeople in this world have no lives. Know this. xD
TwoD3 votesWhy you scared of 
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ForeverLaxx3 votesI just want his Rake projectile to not disappear if I die while it's out. A few times I would have gotten a kill if my Rake was allowed its return trip, but I died before it could come back and it just vanished.
The Tilted King2 votesI just want his Rake projectile to not disappear if I die while it's out. A few times I would have gotten a kill if my Rake was allowed its return trip, but I died before it could come back and it just vanished.
this is really frustrating as talon because there has been so many times when the rake coming back would at least take me with them. ekko's q does it, ahri's q does it..etc why not talons?
Fowus2 votesas a Talon main I agree with your point
Divewing2 votesAs hesitant as it makes me buffing Talon, especially his Q with it's insane late game critting.... I have to agree with you here. I'd personally rather have it give a small range increase but I'd be fine with either
DEmperor952 votesTo be honest, Talon can pull off his entire damage in less than 2 seconds. Why make his burst even faster?
I believe that Rengar's Q animation time was increased when he was reworked just for the exact same reason.
Melledoneus1 votesRengar can jump from nearly twice Talon's range and blow up carries in .01 seconds.
And you say Talon's combo is fast
Transgressor1 votesThat's because he can crit. Talon's burst is natural, and doesn't rely as much on crits.
Wait wait wait... Am I argueing on why assasins can burst down squishes? LOL
Melledoneus1 votesThe while reason Talon deletes people with his E-Q is his crit.
The Tilted King1 votesyea that Q crit hits like a fkin truck
MaximumNinja171 votesRengar can jump from nearly twice Talon's range and blow up carries in .01 seconds.
And you say Talon's combo is fast
Yea but rengar's gap closer is his ult . Talon's is his E? much lower cooldown. Also late game talon combo is E -Q aa dead.Then ult away if your in the middle of the enemy team.
Melledoneus1 votesRengar also has that jump all across the map in brush. Also, Rengar's ultimate has a relatively low cooldown so you shouldn't have a problem with its cooldown.
2erial Rakist1 votesThats only if the q doesnt bug out and 7/10 it will
forist1 votesYeah, that'd be nice. I'm assuming you mean to make it like kass's w or something similar, right?
Auryiel1 votesBecause obviously what Talon needs is his damage being output in an even shorter time frame
2erial Rakist1 votesIts an annoying bug that needs to be fixed wtf
Auryiel1 votesProof that it's a bug?
The animation is slower. That seems intended
Gigahappytown1 votesLets make his attack steriod that always crits for 1300+ damage hit even faster.
Akali is SO HOT1 votesdo et
Epilogue of Life1 votesI think buffing Talon is asking too much of Riot. Not sure, but I heard something about Riot openly declaring that they hate Talon as much as they hate Vlad.
UPfreely1 votesi feel your pain
punch is like the slowest auto reset in the game.
FooDang1 votesI agree with extending the range on Q suggestion.
Guy Fox Teemo1 votesHis combo's to quick already, I'm reluctant to make it faster as he offers very little counter play. He's not OP and this wouldn't put him any where near it. But there should be some time frame where your not instantly killed.
Melledoneus1 votesYou mean the first 30-40 minutes of the game?
Also, if you're alone and overextending without wards at that stage you kind of deserve to get killed.
Troll for Trump1 votesUnfortunatly for Talon, there's not much riot can do to him unless they want to gut him (They got rid of silence, which really hurt him, but made him more easy to counter), remove him from the game, or ruin his identity.
After seeing morde, they'll probably go with the latter.
AP Talon ranged mage support incoming guys.
The Tilted King1 votesUnfortunatly for Talon, there's not much riot can do to him unless they want to gut him (They got rid of silence, which really hurt him, but made him more easy to counter), remove him from the game, or ruin his identity.
After seeing morde, they'll probably go with the latter.
AP Talon ranged mage support incoming guys.
ill anhero, s2g.
Transgressor1 votesLet me translate:
"can you remove mastery from Talon because I suck at playing him?"
2erial Rakist1 votesLOL I feel the same way the original poster feels so dismissed
Mecha MaIphite1 votesSo many times I tried to do an instant 100-0, they flashed off with 200 health and I realized I never actually used my Q because I tried to use it for an AA cancel.
The Tilted King1 votesbut its very satisfying when they flash away with a Q bleed on them isnt it
Mecha MaIphite1 votesAs in they flash faster than my Q animation can finish lol.
Support Evelynn1 votesHis AA reset is fine? I've never had a problem using it in combos. If you want an instant kill combo without an AA reset just do Q E instead.
2erial Rakist1 votesHis AA reset is horrible, we shouldn't have to use a different combo to get dmg off especially when using his e first then AA amps his dmg
The Tilted King1 voteshonestly I think Talon still needs compensation for his lost silence.
I think his passive is trash. it only would help late game, and even then it doesnt matter because most assassins, and especially true of talon, fall off late game. hell, thats why if a game goes that long I resort to splitting or taking out the carry. i mean, talon can take towers down fast. just with the youmous, AA, Q, AA, Hydra, Q, AA.....
they could either adjust the percent on his passive to something higher, make it scale with level, or just redo it entirely.
I have no ideas for what kind of passive would replace it though. Ive thought about it a lot...but.
Melledoneus1 votesI feel like his passive should just be put on his E and give him something that reduces the cooldown of his ultimate by like 5 seconds every time he gets a kill.
The Tilted King1 votesnah. thats not even really necessary. talon is not anywhere near likely to clean up like a katarina could. and his ults cd is low enough as it is. usually talons job is to get into an initiated fight, take out the carry and cause some damage on his way out. with his kit, his chances of surving are really low unless his team works with him and peels.
ofc, I think talon really shines in skirmishes and thats something else entirely.
I thought about it while i was eating dinner just now. level 1-5 10% ad 6-11 25% ad 12-16 30% ad
way I figure it, keeps his early game power the same. gives him a spike mid game where hes the most dominant as it is anyway and the 30% to keep him relevant in the late game..
thats just some hastily made numbers mind you, im sure theres a better way to go about it. but the flat 10% the whole game is just straight meh.
2erial Rakist1 votesWe have been saying this for a long time now, but rito just doesnt want to listen
SouL1ess1 votesIt's already very fast after the Cutthroat -> Hamstring patch.
That may be because I played Talon through out seasons 2-4 though. The animation speed got buffed by a lot so I think its very fast already...
Edit: Right now, the Q animation is a little bit faster than his actual AA animation in my experience.
Dunkrius2g1 votesRiot won't even accommodate him with QOL buffs. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGGNSdJUoAAkGkp.jpg
BeatRushVII1 votesIsn't his Q like Vi's E in that it feels like its slower, but it still functions like any other aa rest?
SnowFall1 votes
is rito's favorite son, not
