Can you shorten up Talon's Q animation?

Krispy Krisps·10/1/2015, 10:10:13 PM·53 votes·2,107 views

Title says it all. It's like 1.5x the normal auto attack animation and it's really difficult to use effectively as a auto reset, even on low-mobility champs that you E on top of. If not, can you have it extend Talon's attack range a bit so most champs can't walk out of it?

51 Comments

Calabok10/1/2015, 10:15:25 PM4 votes

You mean buff him?

No

ForeverLaxx10/2/2015, 7:41:53 PM3 votes

I just want his Rake projectile to not disappear if I die while it's out. A few times I would have gotten a kill if my Rake was allowed its return trip, but I died before it could come back and it just vanished.

DEmperor9510/2/2015, 5:44:36 AM2 votes

To be honest, Talon can pull off his entire damage in less than 2 seconds. Why make his burst even faster?

I believe that Rengar's Q animation time was increased when he was reworked just for the exact same reason.

Fowus10/1/2015, 11:39:54 PM2 votes

as a Talon main I agree with your point

Divewing10/2/2015, 1:19:09 AM2 votes

As hesitant as it makes me buffing Talon, especially his Q with it's insane late game critting.... I have to agree with you here. I'd personally rather have it give a small range increase but I'd be fine with either

Epilogue of Life10/2/2015, 5:15:46 AM1 votes

I think buffing Talon is asking too much of Riot. Not sure, but I heard something about Riot openly declaring that they hate Talon as much as they hate Vlad.

UPfreely10/2/2015, 5:52:53 AM1 votes

i feel your pain Blitzcrank punch is like the slowest auto reset in the game.

FooDang10/2/2015, 7:35:56 AM1 votes

I agree with extending the range on Q suggestion.

Guy Fox Teemo10/2/2015, 7:40:01 AM1 votes

His combo's to quick already, I'm reluctant to make it faster as he offers very little counter play. He's not OP and this wouldn't put him any where near it. But there should be some time frame where your not instantly killed.

Troll for Trump10/2/2015, 8:17:09 AM1 votes

Unfortunatly for Talon, there's not much riot can do to him unless they want to gut him (They got rid of silence, which really hurt him, but made him more easy to counter), remove him from the game, or ruin his identity.

After seeing morde, they'll probably go with the latter.

AP Talon ranged mage support incoming guys.

Transgressor10/2/2015, 5:50:31 PM1 votes

Let me translate:

"can you remove mastery from Talon because I suck at playing him?"

Mecha MaIphite10/2/2015, 6:23:53 PM1 votes

So many times I tried to do an instant 100-0, they flashed off with 200 health and I realized I never actually used my Q because I tried to use it for an AA cancel.

Support Evelynn10/2/2015, 7:45:04 PM1 votes

His AA reset is fine? I've never had a problem using it in combos. If you want an instant kill combo without an AA reset just do Q E instead.

The Tilted King10/3/2015, 1:38:51 AM1 votes

honestly I think Talon still needs compensation for his lost silence.

I think his passive is trash. it only would help late game, and even then it doesnt matter because most assassins, and especially true of talon, fall off late game. hell, thats why if a game goes that long I resort to splitting or taking out the carry. i mean, talon can take towers down fast. just with the youmous, AA, Q, AA, Hydra, Q, AA.....

they could either adjust the percent on his passive to something higher, make it scale with level, or just redo it entirely.

I have no ideas for what kind of passive would replace it though. Ive thought about it a lot...but.

2erial Rakist10/3/2015, 1:49:38 AM1 votes

We have been saying this for a long time now, but rito just doesnt want to listen

SouL1ess10/3/2015, 7:51:23 AM1 votes

It's already very fast after the Cutthroat -> Hamstring patch.

That may be because I played Talon through out seasons 2-4 though. The animation speed got buffed by a lot so I think its very fast already...

Edit: Right now, the Q animation is a little bit faster than his actual AA animation in my experience.

Dunkrius2g10/4/2015, 1:49:24 AM1 votes

Riot won't even accommodate him with QOL buffs. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGGNSdJUoAAkGkp.jpg

BeatRushVII10/4/2015, 1:58:49 AM1 votes

Isn't his Q like Vi's E in that it feels like its slower, but it still functions like any other aa rest?

SnowFall10/9/2015, 10:38:53 AM1 votes

Zed is rito's favorite son, not Talon

forist10/1/2015, 11:38:46 PM1 votes

Yeah, that'd be nice. I'm assuming you mean to make it like kass's w or something similar, right?

Auryiel10/2/2015, 1:23:58 AM1 votes

Because obviously what Talon needs is his damage being output in an even shorter time frame

Gigahappytown10/2/2015, 1:59:27 AM1 votes

Lets make his attack steriod that always crits for 1300+ damage hit even faster.

Akali is SO HOT10/2/2015, 5:10:01 AM1 votes

do et