Bonus attack speed at level 1

Red Wreckage··1 votes·1,066 views

WTF are these changes?

Kayle at level 1 = 15% bonus AS

Yasuo at level 1 = 4%?

seriously how many of the "diamond" balance team members main Kayle? Both these champs currently run full AS rune pages....yet only Kayle gets proper buffs? fk Yasuo and his players as always?? [sg-shisa]

9 Comments

Incognonymous2 votes

Worth pointing out that Kayle has a weak early game, while Yasuo is an early game god with literally the strongest level 1 shield in the game, and by extension, one of the strongest level 1s in the entire game, rivaled only by prerework Gangplank and stacked Tryndamere.

Yasuo gets enough free shit with his triple passive. Fill my cup with these salty Yasuo main tears, because they will sustain me through the shitstorm that season 8 will be.

Durzaka1 votes

Yas level 1 is actually pretty garbage.

His level 2 and 3 are probably the best in the entire game tho (depending on match ups).

Incognonymous1 votes

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Yas level 1 is actually pretty garbage.

His level 2 and 3 are probably the best in the entire game tho (depending on match ups).

You can't convince me that's true. Yasuo Q is incredible. It's literally a kit defining ability, and it would be if Yasuo wasn't just flat-ass kitted out with such abilities. Plus, as I said, at level 1 he's still getting the full benefit of his shield, he's just having to charge it like any other plebian non-hypermobile champ-- walking.

Yasuo is indefensible. He will be indenfensible until his inevitable rework removes the things that make him broken and given something else that's broken.

Red Wreckage2 votes

Yasuo and broken in same post

C'mon people...its 2017. And 2018 soon. Deep rooted bronze it seems

Red Wreckage1 votes

you must be joking...

kayle E is weak early game? with almost 0 downtime...and melee cant even dare to get close to minions to farm.....cause AoE splash onhit magic damage.

yasuo early game God. LMFAO! plz keep on entertaining, clown

Incognonymous1 votes

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you must be joking...

kayle E is weak early game? with almost 0 downtime...and melee cant even dare to get close to minions to farm.....cause AoE splash onhit magic damage.

yasuo early game God. LMFAO! plz keep on entertaining, clown

You can't knowingly pick yourself into a counterpick melee vs. top and complain. You deserve to lose, if that's the case. Still, I'll grant you counterpicks happen.

What I won't abide by is pissing and moaning about legitimately gated abilities. Kayle's E is on a cooldown. Kayle's E is gated by mana costs. You know who has neither of those things? Motherfucking Yasuo. Kayle is a design of a bygone era and is likely on the table for rework because of it. Doesn't fit Riot's hypersustain, hypermobile, hyperdamage narrative for ten minute games of flashy plays. So, hold your tits. Kayle is slated to be the next Yasuo.

The Oasis1 votes

With no CDR she only has ~50% uptime. It isn't until she gets 40% that it can be 100% uptime. Literally the only matchups she straight-up wins are ones where you could also get away with playing a marksman in the lane or against Zed. Rather than a problem with Kayle, it sounds like you don't understand how to lane against ranged champs very well.

Also why does yasuo even need 11% more attack speed? You seem to be forgetting that these changes are to make up for the removal of the raw stats that the discontinued runes provided. Yasuo can function without much attack speed early on, Kayle can't.

Red Wreckage1 votes

Yasuo's only viable build in current rune system is 28% + 4% from runes and masteries combined at level 1. Same goes for Kayle I think.

In new system you only get 18% + 3% from precision tree at level 1. Its a straight nerf. Yet Kayle gets better buffs....not to mention Kayle's build items allows for more attack speed without losing any DPS item 3115 item 3124 item 3085 item 3091 . Oh and that ult late game.

Other champs seems to be getting compensated for runes lose, Yasuo is getting nerfed instead of compensation.

gg biased balance.

The Oasis1 votes

hmm I see. I don't play Yasuo but I assumed he'd run some AD or ARP.

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