It seems that every time we all throw and we are all down by our outer turrets in each lane, it seems impossible to win because the enemy has better lane pressure and more priority, and can push in while they go for an objective. Is there any way possible to win a game like this?
rh3yd3 votesYes, which is why it’s frustrating when you’re team mates want to surrender because society demands instant gratification. One good team fight and you can catch up and/or win.
Karunamon1 votesStatistically, that good team fight usually doesn't happen. The team that takes first tower wins about 72% of the time.
I can't blame people for wanting to cut their losses and get out of a trashed game rather than hang around for another half hour.
ModKnightsKemplar3 votesThat statistic, while useful to the discussion, loses a lot of relevance when you consider how many of those 72% are cases where the losing team gave up.
I see what you're getting at, but the statistic doesn't account for the difference between a team that keeps it together and tries to win vs. a team that gives up and trolls around for 20 minutes waiting for everyone to finally click "yes" when prompted to surrender.
In other words, that number might have been a lot lower if the team that was losing would keep playing and try to win instead of flaming each other and playing selfishly.
Karunamon1 votesYou're not wrong, but that ignores the reality of the game we have. A game where most matches have some form of toxicity in them, one where Riot seems loathe to actually take any positive steps to solving it (lots of carrots, few sticks), one where inters can cause a lot more damage and hang around a lot longer.
That 72% might be different in many cases, but if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
ModKnightsKemplar2 votesThat's talking past the rh3yd's point, though, which is why I brought it up. These are two different discussions.
Your discussion is about the reality of the statistics, and what you can expect playing this game.
rh3yd's comment is about how that reality is largely self-inflicted; your statistic does not address that concern. If your comment had been standalone, I would have left it, but I think there's value in pointing out when there is a break in the logic to make a different point. rh3yd's point still stands that the 72% exists because people give up when it isn't warranted.
rh3yd1 votesI've experienced instances where 1-2 team mates want to give up and are passively tilting and escalating of each other. Nothing is said to defuse the situation instead the other three (myself included) try to make plays either catching out a badly positioned teammate or take objectives. It is rare but the opposing team becomes over confident and makes mistakes that we were able to capitalize on and turn the match around. This of course results in the enemy team tilting and turning on each other. The worse part is that the ones on my team that were ready to give up actually get involved and act as if they were pivotal to the outcome when they are sulking all along. On the other hand, I've had teammates give up after a few (avg of 1-2) early deaths on 1-2 lanes. It is an unfortunate side effect of the instant gratification and combination of the quick snowball potential of any match.
Rayjay Redfang2 votesYou can have all turrets down and Nexus exposed and still win. It depends how you play and recover and also comps. If your team has a bunch of champions that suddenly come online and the enemy treams champs fall of hard. Then you can still win. It isny a likely outcome all the time but it is possible.
Bright Claws1 votesYes. You can win.
Step Sis Lux1 votesOfc u can win but its depense on your champions and etc
2Charmnot2Charm1 votesif the enemy team doesnt know how to use their advantage sure, but you also need your team to know how to play from behind.
Done251 votesYo ca win, but it's an uphill battle. Especially if the enemy has any hyper carries who can now freely farm. Sneaking/stealing Baron is your best bet for an upheval.
Professor Ward1 votesThe single most consistent factor in game win percentage in the last two seasons has been first tower kill.
LateCustomer1 votesIt's very possible to win. However, as already stated above, most teams in that situation usually give up.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesIt's tough to. But you can. Typically depends on the team (do you simply scale better?) and which turrets are down (3 down in mid is harder to come back from than outers being down).
remakoro1 votesEasily. One bad TF and everything goes down the drain.
