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Why did Fizz need his ultimate to latch onto people he clearly missed.

Yuumi the Mouser·12/26/2016, 3:04:21 AM·112 votes·5,253 views

I mean, isn't' the point of a skill shot to actually aim and hit your enemy for it to be effective?

I can clearly dodge a fizz ultimate, but it will go past me just a bit reach it's max range, then drop this MASSIVE lux E sized area around it, that if anyone is remotely near it, the ultimate that just missed you will instantly attach to you, and you then suffer the full effect of the max range Fizz ultimate.

This is really bloody obnoxious, why am I being punished for dodging a fizz skill shot, by then being hit by it's super powerful max range strength because I dodged it. Should I just be walking into Fizz's ultimate to make it travel less?

Fizz is already bloody annoying enough as it is, going around, bouncing around, doing a crap ton of damage while being extremely hard to hit. Now he has his ultimate, that gets more excessive in it's effects the longer it gets thrown, that when at max range, just latches onto anyone in the general area, No aiming required.

He really doesn't need this, people were landing his ultimate JUST FINE without this. Why did riot put it in? It's not even that hard of a skill shot to hit.

89 Comments

Chud Bubson12/26/2016, 5:23:35 AM39 votes

As a Fizz main, I agree. I like the ult rework, (more reward for more skill) but the hitbox is just inconsistent and somewhat weird. If they nerf it though, he will need something else so he doesn't fall off the face of the earth.

SweedishGunner12/26/2016, 1:00:03 PM16 votes

Pre-update Fizz was a bitch to play against, post-update Fizz feels like even more of a bitch to play against.

HazyCloud712/26/2016, 10:29:40 AM11 votes

The hitbox on his ult is the way it is presently to try and compensate him for the clunky 2 second wait on his W they shoe-horned into his kit.

Pommel Knight12/26/2016, 7:25:04 AM11 votes

Because before you actually had a chance at being relevant in mid and late game without it, ult was just extra dmg and dmg boost you got when you hit someone. Now you have to hit it to be able to prock w and not die when you q to do it.

Riot just rushed the fizz rework in the last 2 weeks and made him really bad. Before he had dps with w and an execute with dot, his ult was rewarding for good players to hit and not so punishing as the new one to miss (Meaning you could still kill someone without it). Not to mention he still doesn't have a passive.

As for ult, almost no fizz main likes the thing. The idea was there but the execution isn't. We are forced to hit the max range shark to deal acceptable amount of dmg, small shark deals less dmg than e or w alone. Mid shark is just lackluster and the big shark is just hard to hit all the time because it's a Morgana q speed ult. Believe me the attach radius is working fine, the shark lands when you dodge and the pick up area is a bit bigger then and you are outside of it by a mm. Also Riot said that they don't want the ult to be dodge-able by walking , because that would make the ULT skill-shot useless and would be a reason to buff the shit out of Fizz.

Kinky Fizz12/26/2016, 8:33:46 AM9 votes

the hitbox is big but unclear for players to notice, that's why it seems like a bug. Riot is planing to fix fizz, nerfing his all in and buffing other stuff. so be patient and stop complaining about fizz's ult every day, bcz if fizz doesn't land his ult he's trash.

rtbf7610927112/26/2016, 7:20:31 PM7 votes

Why did his ult need the +20% magic damage from his other sources removed?

Why does his w require a 2 second wait time to do any damage?

Why was the flat magic damage from his w removed, making him worse vs turrets?

Why did he ult need to do less damage than his e at close range?

Why did they gut my main?? Who gives a shit if his ult latches onto people easily. It could be point and click. Doesnt matter he's ruined

GULAG 4 U12/26/2016, 5:03:18 PM6 votes

It's the only reason why fizz isn't pure garbage right now lol

Rebonack12/26/2016, 3:27:40 AM5 votes

Because whiffing the fish feels bad.

The 2nd Horseman12/26/2016, 5:46:38 AM5 votes

If you lack a dash you honestly can't dodge the shark from what I've seen, and if you have a dash it better be large and you better move perpendicular

Penta Penguin12/26/2016, 6:24:17 AM5 votes

Every skillshot in the game is coded with frames at the very end where the hitbox expands a little bit, i can't explain the logic of that but there you go

However Fizz ult is more like a combined skill shot and AOE area at the end, it's clearly intended

Lux E is harder to dodge

ABlueQuaker12/26/2016, 7:32:12 AM5 votes

Why did Riot even touch Fizz? He'd been fairly healthy since he got nerfed back when Tank Fizz was a thing.

Quinnova12/27/2016, 7:36:07 AM3 votes

yeah, you can clearly SEA it doesn't hit you.

Dengeden12/26/2016, 9:41:30 AM2 votes

You're ... looks up Fizz release date ... years late to ask this question.

Also, Fizz gets countered by MR and support(item)s.