Can we discuss "Support Brand?"

Yuumi the Mouser·11/25/2015, 4:52:51 PM·6 votes·2,008 views

It honestly feels like the old "Support Annie" all over again.

Anytime I'm playing a traditional support against a Brand support, I feel utterly useless.

But brand has a hard stun CC, just like annie, and with his passive and death fire touch, one bloody spell hitting you will burn your health away at a very rapid pace.

Can riot address this? I'm not enjoying this.

15 Comments

BastionKross11/25/2015, 5:03:11 PM3 votes

This is what happened to Annie back in season 4. Riot nerfed mage supports to the point where actual mages could do their job better. Annie was then nerfed to hell for trying to take the support's job, and left there for quite a while before getting buffed back up. Looks like history is repeating itself with Brand, and we all find out what we already suspected: Riot learns nothing from their mistakes.

What they should be doing is buffing up mage supports so that they can actually accomplish something other than feeble pokes and weak heals. Something that is a viable alternative to a tank support instead of just being food for them.

Blazing Tenshi11/25/2015, 5:04:05 PM1 votes

Yes, plz remove support brand from the game.

SaltyKracka11/25/2015, 5:08:34 PM1 votes

They're going to nerf brand, but support brand will need some special attention.

Hayaishi211/25/2015, 5:10:04 PM1 votes

Support Brand is the definition of cancer holy shit.

Illâoi Evê Siôn11/25/2015, 5:18:39 PM1 votes

I enjoy the challenge ^^ But they could tone down his base damage down a little bit.

Yuumi the Mouser11/25/2015, 5:58:09 PM1 votes

I'd be 100% for Riot moving his base damages into his Ratio's like they did for Annie.

The difference would be that Brand can't just flash ult a clumped group of people for a stun and still be good as support, his single target stun has utility in supporting lane, but he just still goes full mage with a support item.

I feel the ratio shift would actually effect him, because it would cause his damage to be lower with the lack of gold early on.

Monstar Energy11/25/2015, 6:12:09 PM1 votes

he has nothing to support with other than his stun and poke. it's the exact same thing as lulu, leona, thresh, annie, taric, etc. just buy health potions and play safe like you should be on every single support and boom you're playing like a decent support and not freaking out over non-op champs.

Anorath11/25/2015, 7:58:58 PM1 votes

What most people here aren't getting is for support, you don't need those shields and heals. They don't make SUCH a detrimental change to fights that you MUST have shields/heals. Hell Leona and Naut can't do that for their adcs/teams but they have CC. Annie has the AoE stun which she can build up and AoE stun again with her E or ult w/e's available. On the other hand, Brand has a more fatal form of CC being he builds pure mage exception of the AP/ward item, and proceeds to blow the enemy team up. The only CC he needs is "Half their team is dead you're good" and what's worse is your team hasn't even joined in yet. He just QEWR and hey lookie there, they're all/mostly dead. It's retarded. I used to main Brand back in S3 and part of S4, and he hasn't changed at all, the game has, and it's given him too much with this. He has far too much freedom and I honestly see it as they're going to get rid of his stun which I'd be happy with because he doesn't need it, he has plenty of power, and doesn't need the CC at all, especially at 2 second base stun. Yes it's a skillshot, so what? It's a 2 sec stun, that can happen at lvl 2. I can't think of another off the top of my head that does that without scaling.

ThatH1N111/25/2015, 8:01:24 PM1 votes

He is really easy to beat you just have to get up in his face early.

Owltears11/25/2015, 9:09:58 PM1 votes

The champs that can do better then him that I had struggled with where on the enemy team: soraka, sona, vayne, ult kog, varus, and tom kent.

Don't know if this'll help you counter him. Sona's heal and range, and sorakas Q where the ones that annoyed me the most as if i had to get close they could pick my hp away little by little