Is Trundle Really In Need Of A Triple Nerf?

King Odin··2 votes·1,807 views

http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Trundle-Final-Portrait-1.jpg http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Nerf-Box3.png http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Pillar-of-Ice-Final-Icon-1-1.jpg Pillar of Ice [ E ]

Mana cost increased from 60 at all ranks to 75.

http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Nerf-Box3.png http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Subjugate-Final-Icon-1-1.jpg Subjugate [ R ]

Cooldown increased from 80/70/60 seconds to 110/90/70; Mana cost increased from 75 at all ranks to 100.

I mean these are pretty massive nerfs to his laning phase but Tahm Kench only got his movespeed while carrying an Ally removed and nothing has been done to Rengar still. Why not just increase Trundles ult time and not nerf his mana on two of his spells? You all triple nerfed WW too because he was too strong due to devourer and now I haven't seen a WW in 2 months and same goes for Sej and Cinderhulk

9 Comments

TheToadKing4 votes

Taking away Trundle's chomp on the turrets is unfair. He goes from one of the premier turret hounds like Jax and TRISTAN (who you buffed for turrets) to someone who now takes forever to take a damn turret. This was really unfair.

You're turning him into someone who is average at best now.

One of Trundle's great things was his versatility. Not at the top in anything but good at a lot of things. You've just crippled his toolbox.

Jcrcmiah3 votes

Riot probably only looked at Trundle as a support, and not as a Top laner/Jungler. He will get the same treatment as Morgana, a mid laner turned to a support, with nerfs.

Jbels2 votes

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Riot probably only looked at Trundle as a support, and not as a Top laner/Jungler. He will get the same treatment as Morgana, a mid laner turned to a support, with nerfs.

Yeah, but will Trundle even be a good support after these?

TehNACHO1 votes

Okay the ultimate mana cost should be the standardization Riot wanted to achieve with mana champs a long time ago. (On a related note, call out every other mana champ with other than 100 mana cost on their ult)

Also it's not like you spam his E in lane. Sure 15 mana is uhh, something, but it's not like you should constantly going oom in lane because of your pillar.

Subjugate's probably the only substantial nerf on his kit, and it's mostly to counteract his massive dueling power and apparently stat checking the hell out of everyone, something that we need to pay attention for all AD based duelists due to the Marksman update and more specifically, itemization changes affecting their dueling potential.

TheToadKing2 votes

Nah, the worst part of the nerf by far is not allowing him to chomp turrets anymore. It now takes 3-4 times as long to take a turret with him as it used to. This is a MAJOR nerf.

Worse yet, they've been buffing turret damage for champs like Tristana.

TehNACHO2 votes
  1. This post was made before I learned of the turret interaction nerf, and the op never mentions it either.
  2. The reason why they'd nerf Trundle's turret damage vs Tristana's turret damage buff is that Trundle is meant to be an anti-champion duelist and Tristana's niche is literally that she's the strongest/best Marksman at destroying towers.
Dreadlocks1 votes

Yes, this guy pretty much 1v1's any melee top lane right now... I think the best nerf hes getting is the increased CD to his ult, it might give the other lane a chance to fight him with it on CD. Kind of like what they did to riven.

just a memory1 votes

These nerfs are outrageous. Trundle hasnt been a balance problem for years, and now hes getting nerfs?!

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