Lee's Ult rank 1 does less damage than Lee's Q Q

Yaśuo Main·Mar 10, 2017·2 votes·821 views

Should we leave it like that? I might get downvoted, but Lee's Ult rank 1 is amazingly weak compared to the rest of his kit. It shouldn't be like that, atleast make Lee's ult 200/300/400. Or nerf his entire kit to balance it out. Either way, Lee's R is really dumb right now, especially with how disgusting the damage is with his RQQ "combo" when he hits rank 2 on his ult.

note: This is assuming the Lee sin is maxing Q first, and is building damage.

18 Comments

Maximum MordeMar 10, 20176 votes

So, how about we just nerf his q damage instead

HyperiönMar 10, 20172 votes

No thanks. Lee already does a shit ton of damage for how tanky he gets.

Yaśuo MainMar 10, 20171 votes

Im suggesting a buff for his rank 1, and nerfing his rank 3.

His Q is a problem, though.

HyperiönMar 10, 20171 votes

Anything with percent health is.

BeatzBoyFTWMar 10, 20172 votes

but Lee's Ult rank 1 is amazingly weak compared to the rest of his kit.

Good, cz why the fuck does a team displacement ability needs to have such a large base damage for?

xxxDogmanxxxMar 10, 20172 votes

Lee Sin's rank 1 ult does 150 + 200% Bonus AD with a 90-second cooldown. Meanwhile, Xin Zhao's level 1 Ult only does 75 + 100% bonus AD with a 120-second cooldown. Hmmm...

Automated RivenMar 10, 20171 votes

Pretty sure xins ult has a max Heath scaling too.

xxxDogmanxxxMar 11, 20172 votes

Current HP, actually. So if you activate the ult as part of your combo, it'll do about anywhere from around 1-120 damage depending on how healthy the enemy currently is. Still probably less damage than Xin Zhao's Q, Lee Sin's Ult, or Lee Sin's Q Q.

im always saltyMar 10, 20171 votes

his ult at level 6 regardless of damage makes a big difference in the early ganking phase. his ability to displace one or two of the enemy laners and place them under his own tower or get them out of their own towers range is a strong enough mechanic that he doesn't require any additional damage. especially sense he already does a good amount of damage without his ult.

Yaśuo MainMar 10, 20171 votes

especially sense he already does a good amount of damage without his ult.

thats a problem that should really not exist. An ultimate to me is vital to everything. A champion that doesn't need an ult isn't usually balanced.

yes, while Lee will have an ult early game which will deal 300 physical damage(taking into account of total 150 AD at that time) and have a huge CC, I am not saying he should get free damage with no compensation nerf, or maybe even combine the ult buff with the damage shift from his Q to his E. However, I am afraid that will promote mashing the keyboard as a viable way to play Lee Sin.

DreadlocksMar 10, 20171 votes

Stick to yasuo, Lee Sin isn't suppose to be a damage threat past 20 minutes. (unless ofc hes going full ad which can be risky as hell)

ParoeMar 10, 20171 votes

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Stick to yasuo, Lee Sin isn't suppose to be a damage threat past 20 minutes. (unless ofc hes going full ad which can be risky as hell)

COnsidering lee-sin has one of the highest AD bursts in the game, thats a fallacy. "This champion has high base damage and high scaling so instead of building him AD to make use of those incredible ratios lets build him tanky with only a little AD"

DreadlocksMar 10, 20171 votes

Its also extremely conditional and terrible versus tanks. It would be similar to going full AD on Darius just because "muh ratios"

GrimspeakeMar 10, 20171 votes

You mean your suggesting they revert the gutting of his ult. gameplay and bronze wont like that idea

PoskeMar 10, 20171 votes

Le bl R>W does Less dmg then level 3-4-5 W

Should we change that to?

HethaleanMar 10, 20171 votes

If only it did something like root the target, then knock them back 900 units (i think), and damage and knock up anyone it hit as well. Gosh, i mean no screw that. let's only look at the damage of the ability. lol even if it kicked from fountain to fountain, the damage is the only thing that matters lol

Guyy FieriMar 10, 20171 votes

In an execute dude...