I play Tank champions because I like to last long in fights and be a unkillable machine that in return can't kill anything but more and more it feels like I should just build glass cannon because either way I will be dying just as fast due to %max hp and armor penetration. So why even build tanky anymore?
Because squishy mains QQ'ed about not being able to kill tanks in 2-3 hits and the very fact that tanks have slightly more cc than they do, while tanks have to spend more than half of their hp and almost if not all of their kit just to get to them and hopefully place a single cc on them so the rest of the team can catch up and blow the target up.
But nope, Riot says "tank should have less tankiness and less cc so squishies can kill them within 2 hits and has self peels enough to counter almost all cc being thrown at them unless you dedicate more than 1 tank per squishy, range and melee balance? Wth is that?".
^This is the exaggeration of the case, but really tanks are almost non-existent and useless nowadays, when was the last time you saw someone in the pro scene that actually built and played as an actual tank rather than just an initiator?
Because someone has to start the fight.
I never liked to tank but for another reason: I hate having to depend on my allies for something like damage. If go in as Malphite and start to tank and my ADC chickens off or mess's up.. then I'm stuck there and I'll die. But If I'm the ADC and something happens, I'll make sure to use my escape and get out of sticky situations (i love cait, ez).
I agree way too much % and true damage these days. Tanks aren't really tanks at all. I like the concept of thornmail that can return damage, maybe another kind of thornmail? Like.. for magic damage? I know it sounds like a bad idea, i just came up with it randomly.. It's not a good idea I know, but something like that. Something that can return another type of damage..
Tanking honestly isn't that bad.
I get the funny feeling that Riot does not like Unkillable tanks Constantly diving.
You don't really see this much in Yolo queue. Either because people are too scared or they don't know how turret agro works. If the tank, tanks turret, a glass cannon can go under tower with no ill effect so long as the tank is still taking turret agro. This is important to note when ganking because coming from behind the turret is an option for some tanky Junglers.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, Super Unkillable tanks like what we had previous seasons (was not around for them) removed the safety that turrets gave you. That being said, Tanks are still good a diving a tower in a gank, assuming the lane partner acts fast. (even with as little as a Giants belt.)
Being the tank in the new meta isn't about being unkillable, it's about getting your face smashed while people that do damage do just that. You should die if you get caught out by the enemy team, and ya you'll last a few seconds as opposed to instagibbed but it's your fault.
A tank needs to be smart. Meat sack meta is no longer a thing.
There are a few things about tanking currently that I don't think people at our level understand:
IDK but if I play straight-tank Malph or Mundo top, I pretty consistently will be contesting my midlaner for "most fed", and once teamfight phase rolls around, I may fall off in damage, but I can turn my fed-ness into snowballing my team into victory.
Because a full glass canon that tries to initiate will be insta deleted, sometimes before their gap closer even gets them to their destination. Sometimes it's funny watching a full glass xin/lee dive into a team of 5 thinking they can initiate for their team without a single bonus defensive stat.
League is a very fast paced game, tanks die fast because squishies die even faster. In low elo where reaction to the game isn't as flawless as it should be, I'm sure plenty of people feel worthless playing tanks. As the tank, one can only buy so many seconds. If your team doesn't follow up, those seconds are wasted, and you're probably dead because of it, and maybe the rest of your team.
Aswell, in low elo where focus fire isn't as flawless as it should be, glass canon initiators probably feel alot more rewarding being as you don't always get instadeaded trying to dive their team.
Sometimes, the two go hand in hand, you as a tank dive their team, they don't have focus fire, and you and maybe 2 others 3v5 the whole team. Crazy situations happen when different skill levels are put into the mix.
The game will never be balanced for ALL skill levels, and it really makes sense to balance from the top skill levels than from the bottom. Tanks itemization is decently okay. It's really due to the lack of utility in most tank characters kits that make them unviable. A tank with a single cc/utility nowdays is generally considered pretty bad for teamfights, unless it's a huge aoe one like Wukong or Malphite.
But iif they do %hp dmg then they deal less damage to the rest of the team! Meaning that you sacrificed yourself for a bigger earnings!
I'm seriously trying to figure out if this topic is elaborate satire or not.
Rammus, Malph, Amumu, and Mundo are all absolutely amazing right now. Tanks in general are. The changes to Last Whisper and its upgrades were a MASSIVE buff to them. They're running rough-shod over most of the cast.
I agree. And since everyone else has crowd control too, you feel even less useful.
I play Tank champions because I like to last long in fights and be a unkillable machine that in return can't kill anything but more and more it feels like I should just build glass cannon because either way I will be dying just as fast due to %max hp and armor penetration. So why even build tanky anymore?
They just got rid of dfg and people on forum are still complaining about dying too fast...
Please stop the whinning about tanks. It's so annoying.
Sure nerf tanks damage and buff their tankiness as well as CC and i think people would generally be okay with that. The problem is if they are both tanky and do a lot of damage then the meta would literally change to 5v5 tanks. The other problem is if they were tanky with hard cc you would come across this problem where the support meta would change to tanks because they can both peels and unkillable and and i think you can use your imagination to figure out what problem that may cause.
