My Biggest Problem With Zoe

sixths·12/28/2017, 10:17:00 AM·3 votes·460 views

First off, before all of the "low winrate not op blah blah" hate, I understand she may not necessarily be entirely OP atm.

My problem is this: they nerfed/changed Nidalee's spears back in the day because of how obnoxious they were to play against because they could practically 1 shot people... Then they add Zoe, who has a very similar mechanic, and on top of it she also gets an ability that sets up her huge burst. Not to mention it is AOE damage... What on earth?

5 Comments

Oxyrotten12/28/2017, 10:28:22 AM2 votes

My biggist problem with zoe is just that her abilities are way too spammy and I don't think the klepto is at all necessary. And maybe the aoe.

Like you should be punished for missing, not rewarded by just reseting and casting another hard cc 100-0 combo on the same wave (especially with low mana penalty).

Pieceofcandy12/28/2017, 10:43:25 AM2 votes

You didn't get to see old Nid before you took 1k.

Old nid was also very hard to catch as her attack pattern rewarded her for moving as far away as possible tossing the spear, even before the spear hit, so even if you had an idea of where she was it was usually gone as it was

spear toss cat form W away (regardless of hit/miss/enemy engage as this maximized spear damage.) check for hit human heal/bushwack routes to you repeat

Zoe's range on her stuff being able to hit you vs her champion's actual proximity to you is pretty reasonable/small. this is the difference

Her spells are pretty telegraphed, her Q has to be fired backward/ to the side giving you time to react THEN she can R forward and then launch the Q again.

Old Nid vs Zoe is just silly, it's either people just repeating stories without having played against her at the time, memeing or forgot how bad it was.

the E was just not received well, as it slowly removes control from the player(not fun, hey Wither), so it feels frustrating to deal with, they would have been better off releasing it as an instant sleep and then "reworking" it into it's current state. Since people would appreciate the ability to move more rather than looking at it as a slow crawl into CC. (the E sleep shouldn't stop dashes mid use tho that's pretty annoying.)

Splurged12/28/2017, 10:43:17 AM1 votes

My biggest problem is her e and its cooldown. Having 4 seconds of cc on a 8 sec cooldown(max cdr) is insane. The cooldown even lowers when hit.

The sad part is that any decent nerf to her kit will make her useless. She's just a terribly designed champ.

Harden Stepback12/29/2017, 8:15:20 PM1 votes

She shouldn't be allowed to get a teleport that shit is broken