What do you guys think the odds are of veigar gutting getting reversed?

Ser Safir·3/9/2015, 4:43:22 AM·14 votes·1,228 views
Veigar (The Tiny Master of Evil) - Champions - League of Legends

Veigar's winrate is a stagnant 39-40% for a week.

His playrate has never been lower. 2% over all elo, .6% in diamond.

His next batch of "buffs" will make his q go faster which will help him grab about 3 more ap than he'd have lost.

His 'e' loses its cast time but still gives 100% of the .75 sec warning it did before which means it probably wont change who gets caught in it.

Dabox [challenger veigar main, best veigar on the planet, 59% winrate on him last season on 700 games] called the new veigar "unplayable and unwinnable." He has not streamed since january and barely plays more than 1 match 10 days, using veigar 1 time this month.

As for double q farming: good veigars didn't even focus on q farming, they used it to harass, something they can't do anymore.

Sadistic Veigar said, "It isn't fun playing Veigar anymore, period. No adaptive playstyle can work around 2 useless skills."

The funniest part is a 1000 ap veigar would need 200 more stacks to do the same damage on his ult. So... yeah... stacking q has never been less meaningful and even timed correctly, there are times when the cs ur trying to kill walks out of the way or the hit collision does a little damage to other cs.

I know this is Riot's game, and they can enforce any meta they want. They wanted to bench veigar so they could keep a mobility meta, and I get that. The thing I am mad about is being told this champ will get compensation for the loss of his core item before promptly recieving 3 hard nerfs on his kit.

8 Comments

Basidiomycota3/9/2015, 4:50:46 AM8 votes

riot doesnt care about one champ that was never OP, he had no mobility so was not FUN to watch. so they killed the poor guy

Kingsgrave3/9/2015, 6:33:36 AM3 votes

Riot almost never goes back on design value changes

They will reduce the delay but never remove it

Curling Veigar3/9/2015, 5:04:28 AM2 votes

I said he was unfun this patch, but who knows, maybe he'll be 1% better next patch.

also, DaBox isn't able to play because of college stuff (midterms). He said he'd have to smurf with Veigar when he streams the new one.

Bardia the Bard3/9/2015, 6:13:36 PM2 votes

I agree. He used to be my favorite mid lane champ, but he's not fun at all to play anymore. Often, trying to get double stacks on q means being out of position. Hitting someone with the outer ring of the stun was hard but possible when they dive you; missing meant death because he's so squishy and has no mobility outside of flash. Now being hit with a gap closer equals death almost every time, or at least it means taking enough damage to be pushed out of lane. And q farming, especially trying to line up a double stack, often puts you in range of gap closer. Playing against someone like zed or ahri is impossible.

As you said, this is riot's game and if they want to nerf someone, fine. What pisses me off is that I just bought his ridiculously expensive final boss skin.

For me the moral of the story is--- Never spend more than $5 on a skin again.

Also, am i wrong or is his q uncomfortably short range for a skill shot?

Zirzon3/9/2015, 6:19:25 AM1 votes

I highly doubt that they will revert the changes, but I do think that he will eventually be buffed to about the same level he used to be... Though I also doubt that they are going to be particularly quick about it.

Jamnon3/9/2015, 11:26:21 PM1 votes

The same odds as Cassiopeia getting reversed (read: close to nill).

Wish it weren't so.