Why is Ornn being hated so much? And why nerf him?

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He's tanky, does a lot of damage, and people don't like being forced to learn new things. That's the simplest way of things.

When he first came out he was under-performing, so Riot buffed him up. Then he was doing too well and so Riot started weakening him. People hate trying to lane against him, even though Riot's main problem is his massive teamfight potential. Then again I don't know why I'd expect anything but complaints about his damage when he does magic damage and squishy people refuse to build even one piece of MR.

As he is now he's no longer OP, but he is still strong so the bandwagon hasn't calmed themselves yet.

Hmm, alright. Thanks for taking the time to explain this, I appreciate it. But I mean he's kinda a similar case as Nasus, they are both characters that are represented to be somewhat God like beings. They shouldn't be nerfed because they are able to deal more damage than some carries for example.

This is something I been thinking about lately. This game doesn't have to be balanced because not all characters in this game are the same, and not all characters should carry the same power regarding their differences. But I still agree to balancing certain things (that are obvious game breaking) like the buff on Galio Q that would delete anything if you've built full AP.

Think about it this way, in the league universe it is obvious that it would take more than a one human sized with 3 guns (Jinx) to kill a God like being (Nasus) or Ornn for example. That's why champions like him exist to make players play around that, and make them think strategically and work together to defeat them. Or atleast I think that's how Riot themselves look at this.

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He's tanky, does a lot of damage, and people don't like being forced to learn new things. That's the simplest way of things.

When he first came out he was under-performing, so Riot buffed him up. Then he was doing too well and so Riot started weakening him. People hate trying to lane against him, even though Riot's main problem is his massive teamfight potential. Then again I don't know why I'd expect anything but complaints about his damage when he does magic damage and squishy people refuse to build even one piece of MR.

As he is now he's no longer OP, but he is still strong so the bandwagon hasn't calmed themselves yet.

So when will people complain about Zoe?

BUT IT HAS A COOLDOWN DUH. Not realizing that brittle lasts for 6 seconds while his ability already ticks down and what does brittle do? Knock you back, chunk you and even chunk you more and heal him if he keeps his grasp up which is not hard to do. So his W has an effective 6 seconds cooldown early.

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Look at the gameplay clip from this video of EU LCS yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1P9wEyBOpc

So after looking at it...

1st fight was a quite a bad call to tower dive as Camille took too many tower shots and she was CC'd.

2nd fight wasn't all just Ornn damage but Azir soldiers too. Plus it wasn't only just damage from Ornn himself but the itself. Which is quite a good offensive/defensive item for tanks that allows them to do some serious damage.

i actually wanted to make a thread about it. Just ridiculous. OHHHH THE OUTPLAY WAAAAAOW SO GREAT. He pressed W, stopwatch AND W AGAIN after being completely out of position . What a great player with a great outplay. He has a stacking slowpushing wave coming towards him, no reason to be so greedy and overextend to a lvl 6 camille and would have been a deserved death for him if he weren't such a disgustingly good outplayer on ornn.