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@Riot, your turrets do not even exist mid-lategame.

MakerOfFools·11/10/2015, 10:52:24 PM·2 votes·765 views

At level 1, turrets are definitely an obvious aspect to be feared. All players know of their 3-shotting potential at that stage. Even a Leona would question a level 1-3 dive. However. As the game continues to progress, that fear becomes exponentially less. To the point where even an adc can dive the double lasers of your nexus turrets and most likely come out alive. Not only do they cease to exist damage-wise with a generous amount of armor midgame, but they give your enemies gold, AND help to deny cs. Some defensive structure if you ask me!

Above does not bother me even half as much as my next, and final point. Say you have a ranked game where you get fed early, and your team decides to just goof around a bit against a Jinx/Tristana. You get aced, and it's just their half-life tank which you chose not to focus, and a 10% life ADC with lifesteal. Within your 35 second death timer for your team: You have lost your inner turret, inhib turret, inhib, nexus turrets, and NEXUS!

With a game that revolves around buildings being a major focus, they are quite pitiful. One mistake, as shown above and also experienced in multiple LCS and Worlds tourneys, can lead to instant defeat. Even if you have 80% of your structures at 100% life.

TL;DR PLEASE MAKE BUILDINGS BE HELPFUL

12 Comments

Ars Techne11/11/2015, 5:53:07 AM2 votes

I like the point in many reviews that you lead the enemy team out of the based to let a large wave of minions do the work, and here in lies the problem. The turrets are balanced so that, unwatched, the minions can scoop a tower without you noticing and making it so you have to keep watch over them. If they balanced the turrets to the champions in mid to late, the minions would die before they could do any damage to the tower.

That being said, I think the point of the turrets is more preventative of minions ROFLing your nexus, and hence why late game you protect them... so minions dont ROFL your base. The biggest point in the game is quite heavily the most overseen, that no champions need to be present for one side to win, that all minions are in fact winions. Early game turrets are so strong only because you are not much more powerful than a minion. Late game though, you can carve up minions like cattle to slaughter and same is true with towers.

But the point is that while you are out skirmishing with the other team the minions dont take the base. Therefore calling into point that you defend the tower from the enemy team so that later on you can 5v5 them without worrying about the minions eating the base, otherwise you would be 4v5 cause you would have to leave someone back to keep the minions off it and it is hard to win 4v5's.

So the point of the towers isn't to stop champions, its to stop minions, as minions can end a game should no towers exist and is why you protect them in late game. Hope i made this redundant enough to understand from all points of view, the towers arent there for you.

But this brings up the 5.22 pushing advantage, that your towers will now be shredded by minions too should you be, not even losing but, down in towers compared to the enemy. Thats where you should be complaining.

Mimy11/10/2015, 10:56:43 PM2 votes

On pbe as sona I could out heal a trrets damage with a.certain ketstone mastery

MakerOfFools11/10/2015, 10:55:57 PM1 votes

Bump for effect.

Takito11/11/2015, 5:22:17 AM1 votes

I know everyone can get aced.

That's exactly my point.

An ace is normally what ends a long game and it should stay this way.

If you get aced late in the game, you deserves to lose a lot of building because you obviously did something wrong.

I'm saying this, but it's only my opinion after all.

MakerOfFools11/22/2015, 2:23:54 AM1 votes

I've been asking some Diamond players I come across in customs what they think about buildings, and they tend to agree so far. They are on the weak side.

Takito11/11/2015, 1:42:03 AM1 votes

I got a really good way to prevent that...

Don't get aced.

That's pretty simple...And to be honest if turret get harder to kill, the game average would be higher and i don't think i want game to last 1 hour/average...

The turret are good like this.Like someone else said,early game the turret will defend you, so be ready to return the favor later on ;)

The Bearded Bard11/10/2015, 11:30:11 PM1 votes

Intended. Early game towers protect you, late game you protect towers.