She dies with her ult down, comes back to lane ans uses it again. I mean, im glad she's being used more often but her ult cooldown is just too low. Am i the only one who thinks it should be toned up to 120 early? :/
TheDevice2 votesYou won't find any sympathy here.
Ashe is at 20% playrate and 54% winrate. But people love the champion nonetheless. She's simple to use, shes an older champion and an immobile one which makes her a perfect candidate for most the players to favor her because of the mobility hatred.
If Fizz had those numbers, the community would be in an uproar. Yasuo only nearly has stats like that. Nobody misses a beat when it comes to bashing Yasuo though. Welcome to the league of double standards.
BloodyTompon1 votesIf Fizz or Yas had those numbers he'd be overtuned and OP as shite. Ashe has a much lower skill floor and much lower ceiling too. Fizz and Yas have high skill floors and high skill ceilings, so if the average is about 54% win rate for the people who have mastered them the win rate would be ridiculous.
MisterShameless1 votesPeople hate fizz and yasuo for their mobility and their W's. Ashe, as you mentioned, has none of those things.
Reikken1 votes[{quoted}](name=Zuske BloodLine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FvgzPyE9,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-07-30T22:55:44.042+0000)
Am i the only one who thinks it should be toned up to 120 early? :/
yes
BloodyTompon1 votesYou plagiarised my response. You even managed to plagiarise it before I wrote it. Not sure if I should be happy or salty. Why not both?
Vallalan1 votesi find less issue with her arrow and more issue with her Q damage. i play a lot of ashe recently and honestly her Q is just flat out broken. that said, she only needs minor nerfs. she is still immobile and not nearly as problematic as a champ like lucian was.
BloodyTompon1 votesAm i the only one who thinks it should be toned up to 120 early?
It looks like it.
ValyrianBlade1 votesI'm shocked this is so downvoted. I've thought the sane too many times - it's too useful both offensively and defensively to be this low of a cooldown. If she gets a kill with it, clears the wave, bases, by the time she's back in Lane it's back up.
Ashe has been the top adc for a while and frankly never should be - she's a utility adc that should thrive in high damage low cc team comps and starve in tanky teams due to not offering enough damage. Instead she brings hyper carry esque damage to layer on that extra cc and is just never a bad pick.
I honestly don't know if it's the ultimate that needs the nerf - if they nerf her q and overall dps she'd be fine with the ult. If she can't 100-0 you by hitting her ult and having any support combo their cc then it's not a problem to be up so often. It fits her better as a utility adc. I don't mind Ashe rocking her current stats with a riven/GP/Quinn/Pantheon/fiora top and azir/cassio/Karthus mid and khazix/shaco jungle. What bothers me is she does just as well or better with a malphite/maokai top, lulu/Lissandra mid and skarner/Volibear/sejuani jungle.
Zuske BloodLine1 votesi just find her Laning phase to be TOO strong unless countered or camped.. maybe its not her ult that needs a nerf idk but something is wrong about her to just Ult me out of an all in then Killing me for it, goes back to base and ults my adc killing him after. i aint suggesting this cause im salty about her. Im just tired of having my adc's all in Ashe and die and then I get the blame as a support for her eating the ashe arrow. Like how's that my fault