Players abusing remake to leave matches they were counter picked in, because no one dodged que.
I mean, even I've done it, just saying.
I mean, even I've done it, just saying.
Abusing? They lose full LP instead of the 3/10 from dodging, and get a low priority queue. They might be making the other 9 players wait longer for a new match, but they are screwing themselves if they are going for a remake instead of dodging.
It's not about the LP it's about the time investment. It's always been the time.
Are you suggesting they are doing it just to waste your time? If you are, that is ridiculous. If you are not, then you can't say they are abusing it either way, just that it annoys you.
No, it's done to NOT waste time, waiting till 20, or when the team gets tired of being dumpstered. Like, when I get a blue ezreal, it's an auto loss, and I'll gladly take a leaverbuster over enduring 20 minutes with those clowns.
I don't understand you at all, lol. An individual player gains no benefits from doing a remake; by trying to save 20 minutes all they do is guarantee a loss and get at minimum 25 minutes of total leaver penalties (100 max). Where is the abuse except to the idiot intentionally leaving so it's remade?
20 Minutes > 30 min dodge wait because trolls get away with everything in this game. You can take 50 LP i dont fucking care, waiting 30 minutes, an amount of time that the troll would already be in que again because they ffed at 20 is what pisses me off. At least let me ARAM while i wait for ranked que. But nah.
How would you abuse that system? I mean you can only remake if there was someone afk on your team. The system is made to read if there is any afks, if not it won't even allow you to remake.
And if you purposely afk so your team can remake, you still lose the full amount of LP that would be consider a lose. (AFKs take LP lose)
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How would you abuse that system? I mean you can only remake if there was someone afk on your team. The system is made to read if there is any afks, if not it won't even allow you to remake.
And if you purposely afk so you're team can remake, you still lose the full amount of LP that would be consider a lose. (AFKs take LP lose)
queue with boosted animal if it doesn't work out command boosted animal to disconnect proceed to vote yes
As if you're going to get someone that will dodge for you to such an extent that it matters? You'd have to get a new person each time to avoid the queue penalty, and if you didn't it'd increase each time. Assuming you really could get a new person to do this for you, the results would be negligible even on that individual's level, let alone the impact on matchmaking as whole.
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As if you're going to get someone that will dodge for you to such an extent that it matters?
If youre boosting someone that would be a small price to pay for them
You'd have to get a new person each time to avoid the queue penalty
If youre boosting people for profit or just boost a lot of people for whatever reason this shouldnt be all that hard. Multiple accounts will suffice
and if you didn't it'd increase each time. Assuming you really could get a new person to do this for you, the results would be negligible even on that individual's level, let alone the impact on matchmaking as whole.
not entirely true, winning consistently makes it possible to rise and bypass promotionals right?
You don't have to be afk, you can literally walk around in circles at fountain, and as long as you don't step off it'll prompt. Do you lose LP? Yeah, but if someone on your team trolled champ select or you got counter picked and don't want to bother because your jungler went Yi "Wait till I have three items and I'll gank guys". Yeah, fuck that, I don't want to sit in that match for 40 minutes.
The other half of the problem is, they get to leave, and not lose LP but you don't win any either, not fair when it's so easy to abuse.
Several times, the enemy team has gone full feed, knowing they can remake, I'm sorry, but, if you're going to be a retard, you deserve to get locked in, and penalized.
TLDR: If you want to remake, sit on the damn fountain, as a team.
Running around in the fountain does not count as afk because you´re active. AFK means away from keyboard as in not there, as in inactive. As in not running around in the fountain and instead just sitting in the middle of it not doing a thing.
AFK is only counted if the server has not detected a command input. That´s why a message shows up about you going AFK after about a minute of no command being detected, i think.
The AFK or the leaver does lose LP, since he was not present during the remake vote. It´s not easy to abuse such a system, but hey, if people want to try, it´s their LP loss, their MMR and ELO decay, not mine, so i tell them abuse away.
Soo instead of dodging and losing 3 LP and no MMR lost, you leave a game, take full LP penalty, MMR loss, and a leave closer to low priority/ban? ooohhhkayyy then
No, but if i get a jungler that tells me to play safe till he has half his full build after we load. Yeah, I want to fucking leave. I said this in a comment.
If you wanted him to see this comment, you could have just put it in your main post. Don't expect people to read every comment in every thread.
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As what Nami said...... you lose more time leaving, than you do just playing and seeing if they do well. You claim abuse it, but what you gain, you lose + some.
I don't care about LP, I can win it back, it's the TIME, I'f I find out a dude wants to wait till half build to gank, or I'm at 30 minutes a dodge, I'll take the leaverbuster. I hate that it has increase time per dodge, make it a set 5-10 min MAX and I wont feel the need to AFK a troll match that I would have otherwise dodged at select.
Seriously, On NUMEROUS occasions, I've dodged a match at 30 min wait penalty, only to get REQUED with the same dude who was just trolling select because his match lasted 20 minutes. Why is this hard to understand? The worst part is you can't go play a fucking ARAM because for some reason dodging ranked counts for other ques, like, what the actual fuck bullshit is that???
You waste peoples time, the time is what makes people rage in this game, why do people get mad? Because X did X and X is stuck for X time in X match/waiting.
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I don't care about LP, I can win it back, it's the TIME, I'f I find out a dude wants to wait till half build to gank, or I'm at 30 minutes a dodge, I'll take the leaverbuster. I hate that it has increase time per dodge, make it a set 5-10 min MAX and I wont feel the need to AFK a troll match that I would have otherwise dodged at select.
Seriously, On NUMEROUS occasions, I've dodged a match at 30 min wait penalty, only to get REQUED with the same dude who was just trolling select because his match lasted 20 minutes. Why is this hard to understand? The worst part is you can't go play a fucking ARAM because for some reason dodging ranked counts for other ques, like, what the actual fuck bullshit is that???
You waste peoples time, the time is what makes people rage in this game, why do people get mad? Because X did X and X is stuck for X time in X match/waiting.
So, queue time being roughly 2-3 minutes.... champ select ranging from about 3-8 minutes normally..... and if you dodge it is only 5-10 minutes? Sounds like troll season will be in order.
You want to leave because you do not like your team or their team..... just think about that. Did you play any sports in school? Or any competitive clubs? Or played any kind of card game or something? Your right, it is not about win or lose. Its about you being selfish and not wanting to play a game for whatever your pety reason it may be. Fine with me, take your time and lose it. Waste your own time. Do not try blaming others for YOU choosing to waste your own time.
Edit: btw, you are not the only one in the game :) the jungler does not HAVE to gank for you. They do not HAVE to gank before a certain level or before a certain amount of items are bought..... and you do not HAVE to leave..... guess the choices are prrreeetttyyyy clear which is made.
No, first dodge is 5 then works up to 30. There's plenty of dodge worthy/necessary champ selects this season. PLENTY.
Edit: btw, you are not the only one in the game :) the jungler does not HAVE to gank for you. They do not HAVE to gank before a certain level or before a certain amount of items are bought..... and you do not HAVE to leave..... guess the choices are prrreeetttyyyy clear which is made.
I used to main jungle. I know what they're to do and not do, and every jungler with a brain loves having me on their team. When you're going to play as a 5th laner farming jungle without pressure while lanes get shit on, you can go suck a dick. THAT is being selfish. But please.
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I used to main jungle. I know what they're to do and not do, and every jungler with a brain loves having me on their team. When you're going to play as a 5th laner farming jungle without pressure while lanes get shit on, you can go suck a dick. THAT is being selfish. But please.
Then they are not good at their role. And if you used to main jungle, and they obviously did not, why did you not offer to take jungle instead? Oh my! Communication? Whatever could that be! Playing with randoms is a toss up, id rather have that Yi that does not gank until 3 items in, than you any day because they are at least going to play rather than waste 10 peoples time just because they did not want to waste only their own.
I do not care about win or loss either, but you claim that time, time time time time time time time....... you always are bringing up time. The fact of the matter is the only one wasting your "oh so valuable" time is yourself.
But please, bring up your time being valuable while explaining that you are the one who is forfeiting it some more. Its totally everyone elses fault for not understanding that your time is so much more valuable than anyone elses.
I return to my..... ALL HAIL MALIGNANT VEMIRA!!!! ALL BOW DOWN! ALL MUST WORSHIP! NOTICE ME SENPAI! because until you stop acting like everyone is scum under your feet, you are just looking for someone to whine to about you wasting your own time.
Riot should check out this post and notice that your forcing remakes which is the same as leaving/afk on purpose which is bannable because it removes the fun for other players in the game.
How long of a time limit do you have to wait to Queue up again? They should just make it an hour long and itll solve everything tbh. Or if they were really harsh just not let them queue up for the rest of the day
"I mean, even I've done it, just saying."
^enough said that you obviously think of yourself as a god of League, the Legend of Legends. Your time is more valued than anyone elses. Your enjoyment is all that matters.
ALL HAIL MALIGNANT VEIMIRA! ALL BOW DOWN! WE ARE NOT WORTHY TO GAME WITH YOU! TEACH ME SENPAI! NOTICE ME SENPAI!
Not really sure why anyone bothered trying to explain anything to you when you started your post like this. Its like talking to a brick wall.
I know, reading and understanding the worth of other peoples time is hard. Apathy is definitely easier.
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I know, reading and understanding the worth of other peoples time is hard. Apathy is definitely easier.
Is your time worth more than anyone elses in the game?