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The scars left by Riot Lyte

Malignant Vemira··9 votes·1,143 views

Just had a match where I got everyone to shit talk and trash in all chat. Everyone had fun, it was a blast, ended with GGs all around, no one needed be reported. When I started playing league in S3 post season, people would shit talk, dick around, and role play. Ever since Riot Lyte had his way, this community is dull, like a sack of rocks. Everyone is afraid to be themselves, because it just takes one SJW who gets offended to ruin it all. It's not about thick skin, it's about not being a stick in the damn mud.

What's the point of the mute button? In most games it's there if you want to OPT out, of the current majority lobbies conversation. This goes for more than just vulgar language, I'm surprised I haven't seen people be banned for objectifying women in chat. That's offensive right? People can't even tell Lucian jokes, because racism, even though this game is as white washed as a game can be. Got banned due to an error in the review, which was lifted. This supposedly perfect and just system that replaced Tribunal.

I just wanted to let you all know. It's ok to be offended. Leave a -1 for the lolz.

Social Justice isn't real, and ESRB exists for a reason.

45 Comments

Malignant Vemira4 votes

The thing is there's and entire age group that only gets offended because responding is bannable. For lack of a better word, sensitive people, are a vast minority in the world.

But hey, I'm just one gamer who's been around the world. It's funny what people who have never seen armed military units on civilian roads find extreme, In a country where Hillary is even a valid candidate, and everyone ignores the corruption. Since the vast majority of NA server is U.S.

EvilDustMan9 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malignant Vemira,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=56I8sdWG,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-07-05T20:01:15.011+0000)

The thing is there's and entire age group that only gets offended because responding is bannable. For lack of a better word, sensitive people, are a vast minority in the world.

But hey, I'm just one gamer who's been around the world. It's funny what people who have never seen armed military units on civilian roads find extreme, In a country where Hillary is even a valid candidate, and everyone ignores the corruption. Since the vast majority of NA server is U.S.

Alright, let me get out my 'Stuff People Say on PB&M' bingo card

Overgeneralizing everyone who doesn't like shittalking.

Implying military time.

Social Justice isn't real.

'Why do you care, there's a mute button'.

'lol, feminism' reference.

Shit, I think that's bingo.

Really, if someone is having fun showing off their limited vocabulary, fine, I can just mute them. But if randos start yapping at me for every little mistake, yea, I'm going to report them.

Malignant Vemira1 votes

Sad day when you can't role play as the villain in a fantasy video game. That is all. #2Sensitive

EvilDustMan5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malignant Vemira,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=56I8sdWG,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2016-07-05T20:23:19.521+0000)

Sad day when you can't role play as the villain in a fantasy video game. That is all. #2Sensitive

Uh, as someone who does that with Veigar, no?

Malignant Vemira1 votes

Also, I said other then just vulgar language. Seriously though, if an F bomb tilts you, you are most likely emotionally unstable.

TrulyBland3 votes

I constantly say fuck. Nobody in the entire history of League of Legends has ever been banned for saying "fuck". Not on the forums, not ingame.

It's the context of these words that gets people banned.

Edit: Except for certain slurs. People getting banned for using those is something I don't feel particularly strong about. Simply because I don't think I've ever encountered a situation where I felt "forced" to use any of those words. So I think it's an acceptable trade-off. And I don't think I've seen people getting banned without using those slurs in negative ways either.

Malignant Vemira1 votes

Never said anything about racial slurs, I said jokes. A slur =/= joke.

TrulyBland1 votes

I just felt the need to correct myself there, that there are some words where context doesn't really matter.

My main point is that dropping the "F Bomb" didn't, doesn't and never will ever get anybody banned.

Malignant Vemira1 votes

Are you also aware that MANY far more reputable persons than I are against Social Justice for it's lack of clarity and ease of abuse.

Mr Fidori2 votes

I love the need in posts like this to represent this video game as a microcosm of "everything that's wrong with the current state of the world."

AramsAreBest2 votes

It's not that I'm offended it's just that you're annoying which is why I mute and report.

Malignant Vemira1 votes

Pinnacle of the problem right here. "Not that I'm offended" Yeah, we better start throwing people in jail for annoying you too right? Light Yagami rules in here. Oh shit, missed a skill shot, well shit, that's annoying, better report.

TrulyBland3 votes

"I prefer not playing a game with somebody that is annoying" =/= "I think all annoying people should be put in jail"

For somebody who seems to go on and on about how overly sensitive people are, you seem to be rather quick to jump to conclusions about what somebody means.

Malignant Vemira1 votes

"its just that you're ANNOYING which is why I mute and REPORT."

Report = Ban Ban = Jail

You can justify sending an annoying person to jail. That same stretch that you just made is applicable in reverse. Just because it's a game, doesn't change what it is that you're doing, nor the equivalent outside the game. Once money is involved, I fail to see how it is separate from real world.

All chat, is the equivalent of a street side. It isn't private messages. It isn't whispers, I fail to see how anything outside of direct harassment ((death threats, targeted hate (unrelated to gameplay, private message harrasment)) is punishable.

If someone steps on your foot without a care for you (intentionally feeding), and they don't apologize or acknowledge it, you're just gonna not get mad at their complete lack of respect(it's just a game kek)? However it is you handle the situation, after you walk away it's resolved and over when both parties walk away mutually. There's literally LAWS that state this, in regards to public conflicts.

If you do something, and they retort, it is legal, if you escalate and they retort, it is legal. So long as you DO NOT escalate, after they clarify you are withdrawing from the situation, it is legal.

So, what would this withdrawing be in League? Putting someone in Jail? OR Saying, hey I fucked up I'm sorry, but don't flame me thanks. AND/OR Hitting the mute button.

In the real world, you do not simply GRIEF someone and get away free. Nor do you flame someone and get away free. Getting out roasted isn't a crime. I don't understand why Riot would try to pass this as a natural thing.

The report feature in this game is nothing more than a revenge button.

AramsAreBest1 votes

yeah i never said my logic was good. I never said i wasn't selfish and abusing it.

Nik Nikerson2 votes

Just waiting for the inevitable Hitler/Nazism reference.

Malignant Vemira2 votes

It's not even necessary, Eminem already proved it all. (and every other unpopular opinion). Don't understand how people can justify censorship.

Nik Nikerson2 votes

Censorship takes many forms, and not all of it is that bad as long as it's not government enforced censorship.

Malignant Vemira1 votes

I mean, I would refer to the Street reference above, as that's more of what's actually going on in League. Subverting an right through and EULA is Illegal I'm sure.

TrulyBland2 votes

It is. But what right exactly are you referring to? And how is it being subverted? And could it be you're just not completely understanding what that right entails? Because I wanna bet you're referring to freedom of speech. Which protects you against censorship by the government. Not by Riot.

Malignant Vemira1 votes

If the government can't then a private company within that government sure as hell can't.

TrulyBland4 votes

That's not how that works. Riot is a private company, and thus it (or rather: the people owning it) have rights just like you have rights. That's why Riot, as a private company, has the right to "censor" you. And because you do not have the right not to be censored by them, that makes their EULA perfectly legal, and nobody's right is being subverted.

In fact, if you are saying that Riot should have no authority whatsoever about their own game and the people they provide a service to, you are the one who is subverting rights.

Dominick Destine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malignant Vemira,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=56I8sdWG,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-07-05T20:53:40.024+0000)

Don't understand how people can justify censorship.

"Muh feelz" is the only justification... well "PLZ TINK OF D CHILDRUN" is the other one.

Colgate Gator2 votes

It's kind of sad that you need shit talking in order to have a fun time. Just because there's a mute button, it doesn't mean it's okay to be toxic, the button is there to mute out nuisances, not to become the norm.

Malignant Vemira1 votes

No, I said the game is as dull as watching paint dry, but I see the real problem now, people can't read.

I'm not sure what part of everyone acting the same is fun for you. It feels like I'm playing with bots when I'm not in a party/premade.

DoctorWolf181 votes

You do know that before Riot was bought out before by tencent shit talking was allowed. Games make the adrenaline pump just like sports you yell you shit talk its what GAMES do to you.

Davarril2 votes

Yeah, let's all be toxic and harass each other in game. That sounds like fun to me.

Just kidding, having troll on my team 50% of the time is enough annoying bullshit to deal with.

Dominick Destine1 votes

{quoted}

Yeah, let's all be toxic

Not being a female dog about things does not make one toxic.

Having ultra thin feminist-style skin is a bad thing, not a good thing.

Davarril1 votes

I don't know what you're trying to say, but if you're calling me a bitch for following the rules that riot created for ALL players to follow, then you can suck me off for all i care.

nobody is above the rules, not me, not you, not riot staff, not anybody, and if you can't accept that, then league of legends isn't the game for you.

Dominick Destine1 votes

{quoted}

for following the rules that riot created for ALL players to follow

No no no , there is a very large difference between being a piece of [Word] as opposed to not being a piece of [Word], following the rules has nothing to do with what was mentioned.

Though I do agree that Riot has been capitulating to the human refuse for a very long time. On that point you are correct.

Davarril1 votes

Whether or not you like or dislike another player, I personally find no reason to intentionally break the rules in order to get petty revenge or personal satisfaction against someone who i've never met, and never WILL meet.

ModPrandine2 votes

Believe it or not you don't have to be a vulgar person to have fun. If you have to play with a premade to have fun then fine. Just remember that what you and your friends find funny may not be what random strangers find funny. The general golden rule of sorts here is to not say or do anything that you know would get you in trouble. This has nothing to do with being too sensitive or having thin skin, it's called having some common sense and decency.

Malignant Vemira1 votes

Perma banning accounts that have spent real money, in a country with protected free speech, isn't common, nor is it decent.

Wolfess2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malignant Vemira,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=56I8sdWG,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2016-07-13T08:57:36.129+0000)

Perma banning accounts that have spent real money, in a country with protected free speech, isn't common, nor is it decent.

you have no free speech in a videogame. You are agreeing to follow a set of rules for conduct and agree to a terms of use/service whereby you are waiving your rights in order to be allowed to partake of said service and allowed to log on and have access to the online game. Also, having spent money on cosmetics does not, in any way, give you any permission or claim to dodge or avoid these rules, nor does it put you in any position to demand benefits over others for having spent said money. That is quite borderline trying to make a bribe or blackmail by saying "Look, I've given you X amount of dollars, I should get what I want for being such a generous customer, otherwise I'm taking my business elsewhere." Nobody forced you to spend a single dollar on this game, you spent that money because you wanted to get things that you liked, and that's exactly what you got. Transaction complete, that's all you get and have no further claims to make other than trying to use one of your three refunds for a certain item that you may have been unsatisfied with so that you can spend your riot points on something else instead.

Malignant Vemira1 votes

Please, learn to read.

EvilDustMan3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malignant Vemira,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=56I8sdWG,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2016-07-13T08:57:36.129+0000)

Perma banning accounts that have spent real money, in a country with protected free speech, isn't common, nor is it decent.

Except that all games do it. League is just the first game to do it for 'being a generic asshole.' WoW is starting to pick up on it. Many online games have the same ban clause.

It may not be common, but that's because a lot of games don't bother throwing out the assholes.

Malignant Vemira1 votes

No they don't. There's a difference between chat banning, and perma banning, and there's a difference between, harassment, and telling someone to fuck off. or kys.

ModPrandine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malignant Vemira,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=56I8sdWG,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2016-07-13T08:57:36.129+0000)

Perma banning accounts that have spent real money, in a country with protected free speech, isn't common, nor is it decent.

Whether it's decent or common is up for debate (in another thread preferably), but free speech doesn't apply here. Freedom of Speech only prevents the government from making laws to silence free speech and it doesn't apply to a private company like Riot Games. From Ulanopo's Knowledge Base:

“Freedom of Speech!!!!!”

Doesn’t apply. No really. If we’re talking about American law, the First Amendment only applies to the government making laws that prohibit speech and, even then, freedom of speech isn’t absolute. For example, you can’t incite a riot, plan to kill the president or yell fire in a crowded theater.

Also, there’s nothing in the First Amendment that protects you from the consequences of your speech. People are fired all the time for making derogatory comments about their employer. My workplace, for example, has a social media policy that says that I can be terminated for badmouthing the company. They don’t ask for passwords and access as some companies have been known to do, but it wouldn’t be all that difficult to find me on the internet, knowing my real name, phone number and address.

Also spending money on a game =/= immunity from the rules. Everyone is treated exactly the same as everybody else as it should be. From the Tribunal FAQ:

Do paying players get leniency? Paying customers are treated exactly the same a non-paying customers by the Tribunal.

EvilDustMan1 votes

Yea, I get you, but between that and all the yappy dogs, I'd rather get rid of the yappy dogs.

Astôlfo1 votes

Yeah yeah yeah yeah... and... you were saying? Oh, never mind, you have no reasonable points.

Dominick Destine1 votes

OP is 100% correct.

Colgate Gator1 votes

Why do people keep necro'ing this thread?

Wolfess1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Postal Badger,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=56I8sdWG,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2016-07-13T17:46:04.164+0000)

Why do people keep necro'ing this thread?

this thread is 8 days old, this is not even close to a necro.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

Thats what happens when you have an automated system handing out bans. It was never a good idea.

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