How Hexdrinker\Maw gives advantage over casters and how to solve it.

Xcom Ufo Defense··1 votes·660 views

Actually an AD mid vs AP can just rush hex\maw and totally win lane only cause of this.

All useful stats, cheap cost and antiburst item.

Please introduce this:

**PEELCASTER

cost: 1350 Gold

+30 ap

+20 armor

UNIQUE- Survival: Upon taking phisical damage that would reduce maximum health below 30%, grants a shield that absorbs 110 - 280 (based on level) phisical damage for 5 seconds. (90 second cooldown)**

Final item:

**PEELMASTER

cost: 3200 gold

+50 ap

+15 magic penetration

+40 armor

UNIQUE – Survival: Grants a shield that absorbs 300 (+ 100% bonus AP) physicl damage for 5 seconds. While active, the champion takes 15% dmg reduction.**

12 Comments

alasarcher7 votes

AP players asking for AP version of Hexdrinker, AD players asking for AD version of Zhonyas.

MasterSomething4 votes

They don't automatically win lane unless you're bad. I've won many AP lanes against AD even when they got Hexdrinker because I was good.

Xcom Ufo Defense1 votes

In your profile you have next to none Ap mid caster played in ranked, a part for a 0\3 loss Ahri.

Dunno what you're talking about.

MasterSomething1 votes

I don't play that much ranked.

GenghisEmo1 votes

But they are forgiven for making serious mistakes, which is my only issue. You time it right, they take tower damage, ur combo, bit b/c it is so cheap they barely live XD. And to counter assassins you take more defensive summs.

Can you win lane, yes you freaking can. Is it as rewarding, no.

But APs cant go defensive item w/o losing something else, for example mana regen.

I only ask for a mana regen, little AP, sone armor item. Kind of like a grail. I dont mind if they give it a shield, or if it has no cool passive or active. I want some mana regen and armor item that works on certain mages, and works well with most.

Anraton2 votes

what about item 3157 ?

Price difference to item 3156 is about 250 gold

Hello I am Bird2 votes

item 3157 Doesn't give lifesteal There is no mini item 3157.

Xcom Ufo Defense3 votes

Zonya is not effective till the full item, while hex is OP just at 1250 gold.

Lauchmelder4 votes

We are talking about Hexdrinker, not Maw.

Hexdrinker: 1300 Gold for a lifesaving passive Zhonyas: 3500 Gold for a lifesaving active

It's not the raw stats that make Hexdrinker an overpowered item. item 3140, Lifesaving active for 1300 Gold, is just a component for a bigger item item 3155, Lifesaving passive for 1300 Gold, is just a component for a bigger item item 3157, lifesaving active for 3500 Gold, active can only be accessed with this item and no item prior to that.

Yes, Stasis (Zhonyas) is powerful. But why are ADs allowed to have their lifesavers already by buying components? A logic solution would be to remove Lifeline (shield passive) from Hexdrinker (while keeping it on Maw obviously) and make QSS build into Zhonyas too.

Anraton4 votes

hm .. Hexdrinker generate a 160hp shield which lasts for 5 seconds .... item 3191 grands 30 armor and 20 ap at buy and an additional 15 armor & ap by stacks .... hexdringer is 35 mres and 20 ad flat .. + shield with 90 sec cd ....

Lauchmelder2 votes

What I am saying is: Hexdrinkers passive is too powerful for how early in a game you can obtain that item.

Seekers itself isn't that great because it needs stacking, while Hexdrinker is a "Buy now and be safe" Option.

GenghisEmo1 votes

Or something with no shield maybe. But gives mana regen, armor, bit of ap. A grail of sorts.

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