Give It Back to her

Pawn of hearts··3 votes·1,586 views

Ok. this might already been said or w/e idc.

but let talk alittle bit about ahri.

Don't you think we should give back Ahri Amplified on her charm

Because of the removed of D.F.G?

she was Op back than because of the Stacking and Sh*T so give it Back.

54 Comments

BroLane3 votes

Ahri doesn't need buffs. Anyone who says so is delusional or an Ahri main who wants their freelo fox to be even stronger than she already is. Ahri sits at a consistent 52+% winrate in all queues from Normal to Ranked Diamond. I'm hoping this is a troll thread.

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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Ahri doesn't need buffs. Anyone who says so is delusional or an Ahri main who wants their freelo fox to be even stronger than she already is. Ahri sits at a consistent 52+% winrate in all queues from Normal to Ranked Diamond. I'm hoping this is a troll thread.

that is the thing. only good ahri player play her; people who love their champs and main her. they train with her and when they manage to become good with her people over looked their skill but saying broken, OP and sh*t.

I simply want to SHUT these piss of f*cker who complain that ahri is OP. if you say someone is Op play her. if you manage to become Op as them then I admit you right But if you feed just Zip up that mouth. if you manage to do good and anyone who manage to do good with her than she is Op but play her yourself are you able to do so?

"Ahri is Op"

"Ahri Nerf Plz"

#LMFAO - STFU

Ruin Lance1 votes

according to champion.gg only 9.14% of people who have played ahri have 125+ games with her, and you're saying that the only people who play ahri are the people that main her. take this into consideration along with the fact that she has a 53% win rate. she is NOT the high skill floor champion you claim her to be. now, i'll agree with you that she shouldn't have had the nerf to her e, but she needs a nerf to the other areas of her kit. here's the part where i explain why she's op. her kit is too overloaded, with only 1 real drawback to it. she has sustain she has mobility. TOO MUCH mobility. she has one of the best cc abilities in the game. it's pretty much a stun that makes them walk toward you, which obviates the need for the enemy to already be displaced. she has burst COMBINED with mobility. she has poke. she has true damage. what's the drawback to her kit? NOTHING, besides fairly high mana costs, which means she has slightly troublesome early game. but in return, she gets stupid amounts of safety in lane. good luck ganking her, because unless she's pretty much under your tower or oom your jungler isn't gonna be able to do anything to her.

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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according to champion.gg only 9.14% of people who have played ahri have 125+ games with her, and you're saying that the only people who play ahri are the people that main her. take this into consideration along with the fact that she has a 53% win rate. she is NOT the high skill floor champion you claim her to be. now, i'll agree with you that she shouldn't have had the nerf to her e, but she needs a nerf to the other areas of her kit. here's the part where i explain why she's op. her kit is too overloaded, with only 1 real drawback to it. she has sustain she has mobility. TOO MUCH mobility. she has one of the best cc abilities in the game. it's pretty much a stun that makes them walk toward you, which obviates the need for the enemy to already be displaced. she has burst COMBINED with mobility. she has poke. she has true damage. what's the drawback to her kit? NOTHING, besides fairly high mana costs, which means she has slightly troublesome early game. but in return, she gets stupid amounts of safety in lane. good luck ganking her, because unless she's pretty much under your tower or oom your jungler isn't gonna be able to do anything to her.

hmmm maybe that is over extend

-first of all which part of it is over load? cause I don't see it. garbage movement speed? the skill shot taunt which can simply dodge? or is it on ult which give her kit? Huh? -btw its not really a stun it more like a taunt. (like ramus or shen) Morg,lux,swain,zyra there are many champ that have rootstun snare etc.. -what make her a burst? her damage if without fed she wont even do haft of your health. a full e,q,w will only at max 1/3 well depend on the situation whenever you under level or no etc...but in equal tearm she will most likely do 1/3 of your health. unless it a very squishy target and such. -her ability cause mana, if you play her yourself you bound to realize you have no mana if you spams. PLUS EVERYONE HAVE POKE. zed, ez etc -her true damage only a potion of her ability which scale ONLY 0.4% ratio in term of cho ULt vayne they are capable of more...

fizz is harder harder to gank than ahri ;/

Nahui2 votes

Nope, she was OP because she got damage amp in general. She can't have all that CC, burst, and 3 dashes plus MS boosts bro.

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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Nope, she was OP because she got damage amp in general. She can't have all that CC, burst, and 3 dashes plus MS boosts bro.

hmm everyone is capable to Burst anyone down.

for example like Fizz Katarina Ekko Zed Annie and there is countless more.. how come swain able to keep his Amp while ahri is not allow? plus ahri cant really burst people down without an ignite and her basic spell of *charm,Orbs and fox cant really kill anyone unless she *8/o or been farm up in xp ahead and item ahead.

alasarcher1 votes

Swain is mage, he doesnt have burst, he has sustained damage. Ahri is Assassin, she is already capable of oneshotting squishies, it would be unfair for her to be able to do same to tankier targets.

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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Swain is mage, he doesnt have burst, he has sustained damage. Ahri is Assassin, she is already capable of oneshotting squishies, it would be unfair for her to be able to do same to tankier targets.

really want to see someone one shot someone AS AHRI..... or any video that you can find.... ahri burst on equal footing ex: xp, items? that not possible. her burst don't really compare to other assassin what so ever if you look at it precisely. she also don't have the damage to do so.

Nahui1 votes

Because none of them have 3 dashes, MS boosts, and CC along with true damage.

Fizz has a targeted dash and a low CD dash essentially, invulnerability added however his burst is reliant on hitting his ult that only comes up once every minute or so at max rank, a bit less with CDR than can be QSS'd or Zhonya'd.

Katarina has 0 CC, only damage and a blink that only resets on kill/assist and her whole ult can be stopped by proper timing CC, unlike Ahri who can still use it once she's out. Ekko has a dash and a an ult that can be a dash, however hard CC is not really prevalent in his kit . His W is not a reliable form, not even nearly reliable as charm. Still no true damage. Zed has a slow, but mostly no CC, and has a couple dashes situationally, though usually one dash. Also no true damage and has one of the highest counterplay kits in the game. Annie has no mobility at all, just CC and high burst. That's about it.

Ahri has less damage than them but has much more versatile kits. Damage amp would push her kit too far given it already has so much. Extremely mobile, hard CC, true damage, nature sustain, and also damage amp on that? Eh?

Also swain has damage amp because he can't move for shit. He's a slow moving AP off tank. If you engage on swain, he has no choice but to fight back. Ahri can get a couple screens away.

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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Because none of them have 3 dashes, MS boosts, and CC along with true damage.

Fizz has a targeted dash and a low CD dash essentially, invulnerability added however his burst is reliant on hitting his ult that only comes up once every minute or so at max rank, a bit less with CDR than can be QSS'd or Zhonya'd.

Katarina has 0 CC, only damage and a blink that only resets on kill/assist and her whole ult can be stopped by proper timing CC, unlike Ahri who can still use it once she's out. Ekko has a dash and a an ult that can be a dash, however hard CC is not really prevalent in his kit . His W is not a reliable form, not even nearly reliable as charm. Still no true damage. Zed has a slow, but mostly no CC, and has a couple dashes situationally, though usually one dash. Also no true damage and has one of the highest counterplay kits in the game. Annie has no mobility at all, just CC and high burst. That's about it.

Ahri has less damage than them but has much more versatile kits. Damage amp would push her kit too far given it already has so much. Extremely mobile, hard CC, true damage, nature sustain, and also damage amp on that? Eh?

Also swain has damage amp because he can't move for shit. He's a slow moving AP off tank. If you engage on swain, he has no choice but to fight back. Ahri can get a couple screens away.

true damage is only scale 0.4% not as much people prefer higher scale. an ult for ultility is hmmm not so great compare to zed,yas,ekko, kat, jax and more....who have acess at level 1 if they plz. ekko cc is like amumu ult don't know how it is not usful, ult which give safety and heal when he low or rake greatly amount of damage. katarina mobile which consider as a free flash, who can easily dodged any form of cc, zed which can use to bait or swap place ult with additional of 2 flash and even become invaluable for a sec, fizz have invulnerable for 2 jump if desire and no need for ult to bursting someone down; easily lane bully and just become vulnerable to safety, even doh ahri ult is 3 you must use it in a short amount of time or so, plus it only a dash which doesn't not dogde target skill short example veigar ult etc...

Nahui1 votes

Let me throw some facts here.

Amumu's ult does damage and is an instant cast. Ekko's takes set up time and they can move out easily. True damage is true damage. Most champs don't have it. Her ult gives far more utility than any of their kits do, and she gets even more mobility from Q, which she too can rank at 1.

Katarina has a "free flash" that can sometimes dodge a CC, Ahri pays 100m mana for 3 dashes and really hard to hit her.

Fizz is not a lane buly. He has a weak laning phase. Zed can have a few shadows, but mostly require his ult and it's telegraphed. You can see the shadow and know where he will go.

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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ok a flash is a flash no matter where you see it go. kat can access to that flash at lv 1 ahri need for her to be 6. ekko ult is still an aoe stun doesn't matter if you, yourself cant lane it, it an aoe stun. it a matter of you have the skilled enough to lane it.

movement speed can be close with a small yas dash or any sort. fizz is not alane Bully? ok. [pft - don't kill me]

Nahui1 votes

It's not a matter of you. In fact. ekkolanding a stun isn't a matter of him. It's a matter of his enemy. It's like Jhin's lotus trap. It's VERY easy not to be hit if you're trying not to.

Fizz isn't a lane bully. At all. Has no ranged skills, absymal mana costs..fizz's weakness is very early game in the laning phase. It's a fact, look it up.

A flash is a flash, and Ahri waits till 6 because she gets 3. And the point isn't other champions that each get pieces of her kit, it's that she gets all of it.

Yes Zed gets mobility and blinks everywhere. No true damage, sustain, movement speed bonuses, hard CC, and his mobility isnt as functional as hers.

Yes Swain gets amp. No mobility, no true damage.

Yes Fizz gets mobility and amp. No true damage, sustain, hard CC.

Yes Kat gets mobility. No true damage, sustain, cc at all

Yes Ekko gets mobility and hard CC. No sustain or true damage.

Do you see what I'msaying? She has it all. Maybe not as good as those that specialize, but she has everything and that's why tacking on amp on TOP of all of that is illogical. She's doing well now as it is.

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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It's not a matter of you. In fact. ekkolanding a stun isn't a matter of him. It's a matter of his enemy. It's like Jhin's lotus trap. It's VERY easy not to be hit if you're trying not to.

Fizz isn't a lane bully. At all. Has no ranged skills, absymal mana costs..fizz's weakness is very early game in the laning phase. It's a fact, look it up.

A flash is a flash, and Ahri waits till 6 because she gets 3. And the point isn't other champions that each get pieces of her kit, it's that she gets all of it.

Yes Zed gets mobility and blinks everywhere. No true damage, sustain, movement speed bonuses, hard CC, and his mobility isnt as functional as hers.

Yes Swain gets amp. No mobility, no true damage.

Yes Fizz gets mobility and amp. No true damage, sustain, hard CC.

Yes Kat gets mobility. No true damage, sustain, cc at all

Yes Ekko gets mobility and hard CC. No sustain or true damage.

Do you see what I'msaying? She has it all. Maybe not as good as those that specialize, but she has everything and that's why tacking on amp on TOP of all of that is illogical. She's doing well now as it is.

Ekko - heal - stun - shield - movement speed - burst - and he strong at all of them. you saying? Katarina which can BURST 3 MAN IN A SEC with a refresh freaking ability ON ALL EVERY OTHER BASIC ABILITY BY 15 SEC. Swain with a godly sustain - Aoe root (which is CC) slow - and amplified.

all of them don't have true damage. they don't have true damage. they don't have the o.4% ratio scale ability power.

#they are not Chogath or Vayne

#BUT WAIT.

Annie Katarina Fizz Ekko Zed Zed

#all of this champ burst people down like a knife cutting through butter.

OH did I forgot to mention AHRI ONLY HAVE 1 CC, BUT WAIT it only one person skill shot. CC mean crowd control and that e is not a CC.

so where is ahri cc you talking about?

don't talk about Aoe damage because everyone have accesses through it.

still saying ahri is op? or change it to under power?

Nahui1 votes

Oh, but wait. DOES EKKO HAVE true damage? Nope. Lol. His heal is also his ult, Ahri can constantly sustain with her passive. Ahri's charm has a lower CD and much more reliable than his stun. She can activate her movement speed on command, Ekko has to hit 3 times. You were saying?

Katarina - Yes. Of course she has MASSIVE BURST. It's all she has. No stuns, no slows, no sustain, only refresh on kill so if no kill, no reset. And has a single targeted blink. So naturally, with only burst and a blink, her power is loaded into damage. See how balance works? You were saying?

Swain has sustain and CC. That's it. No mobility, no true damage. That's why he has lots of sustain and great single target damage. He's missing the other parts.

Fizz doesn't have the true damage or hard CC or sustain.

Zed doesnt have true damage, or sustain, or hard CC.

Annie doesn't have true damage or mobility or sustain.

Ahri has mobility, true damage, sustain, hard CC, and burst. So, again, you're making me repeat myself. Ahri has everything all of the other champs have and don't have. So, again, how would adding on more balance her? She's more jack of all trades than the rest. Her biggest niche is mobility. So yes, she can't burst as hard. Yes, she can't out sustain Swain or out burst Zed or out CC Annie, but she is more mobile than all of them, and still does everything they do.

Think of kits as having a power rating. Say the max number is 20.

Zed has damage, mobility, cc (Slow). So, Damage is at about a 14, mobility is at a 5, cc is at a 1. Ekko has damage, CC, mobility, and a heal. Damage is at like a 12, cc is at a 3, mobility is at a 4, heal at a 1, Annie has damage, CC. Damage is at a 12, cc is at an 8. Fizz has soft cc, mobility, damage. Damage is at an 12, mobility is at a 6, cc is at a 2.
Katarina has damage and mobility. Damage is at a 15, mobility is at a 5.

Ahri has true damage, CC, mobility, damage, sustain.

True damage is at a 2, damage is at a 7, mobility is a 7, cc is at a 2, sustain is at a 2.

Now these are made upnumbers, but you see the point. This is how league tries to balance kits. They have a power level they need to hit, and depending on the skills and what they offer, they sometimes front power heavier into certain skills. So, if we imagine everyone at 20 (barring patch-wise OPs), then giving Ahri her amp back would push damage up to say, a 9. That gives her 22, which is too much. She'd become OP.

Also,her win rate is 53.## %. You don't buff champs at 53% win rate.

Nahui1 votes

And CC doesn't mean aoe. It means any form of inhibiting spell to movement. A crowd is not necessarily a whole group. Enemy is part of a team of 5, a crowd. You hit one with a charm, you've controlled some of the crowd. See?

I'm not saying Ahri is OP. But she is definitely not underpowered. She does not need an amp.

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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still rambling about true o.4% ability scale? true damage suppose to deal damage if other champ don't have true damage but they can deal more damage than there is no point in having true damage? it ok you can blind yourself from reality. let saying an ability of anyone deal "100" such and such...and the true damage deal "40" which one do you think deal more? if you talking about cc true damage aoe silence sustain, tanks, than cho is far greater than anyone. ahri have no cc, lock down on single target is all there is to it. her win rate? a champ like ryze have less than 45% winrate what do you have to say to that?

Nahui1 votes

Yes, it's still unmitigatable damage. It still does a large amount of damage, therefore it's factored into consideration. .4% AP is still very good lol.

Also, Ahri's Q doesn't do 100 normal and 40 true. It's even both ways. So actually the true damage is higher than the normal.

Cho has true damage, sustain, cc, and tankiness but he lacks mobility. Again, Ahri has all of this, but hers isn't as great.

Ryze has 45% win ratio and he sucks dick. What of it? They nerfed him and now he's awful.

You can say I'm blind or whatever, but I'm just making the same points over and over because you're restating the same thing over. Yes, other champions do things. Yes, they do some things better than Ahri. But, Ahri does everything and has 53% win ratio with a 17% pick ratio. She is one of the best mid lane mages right now. So, how can you think to buff a champion already far in the lead? You're making no sense and anyone reading your posts is just gonna think "He keeps mentioning .4 ratio true damage as not being a big deal." It's a fucking massive deal, and you're dillusional if you think a 53% win ratio, 17% pick champion that has CC, sustain, mobility, damage, and true damage needs even MORE.

And youre like actually dumb. Like, idk what to call you. You're actually mentally handicapped. Ahri has CC. Charm is CC. Lockdown on a target is called CC. Like, you're actually a problem child lol.

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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an example of a damage is not the base damage of that certain champs.

single target spell is not cc. ahri have no CC. Only Aoe Damage which every have accesses to it

the true damage is a small potion, which any other capable to deal more.

you can shift everything to your perspective. ignored all the theories there is to it being an ignorant.

Nahui1 votes

The true damage is a potion EVERY hit, and becomes more than a potion later on.

Single target is CC. You're dumb, point discredited.

If you want to count true damage as just damage, then remove the true damage number and add it to damage. It's the same either way, she's balanced around a figurative number.

You're the one ignoring "theories". CC is single target or aoe. Lock down is what happens when you CC a target over and over, hence why they're considered locked down. OR, CC lock. Or stun lock. Notice how lock is used as a multiple application.

In the end, you can't refute my points. It's simple. Ahri has more than just about every champion. Adding more is not going to happen. Add amp, take away her ult. Add amp, take away her sustain. Add amp, take away damage.

In the end, call me what you want. Riot will not add amp to her which automatically means I am right and you are wrong.

Aaaaand 53% win ratio. You can't buff high win ratio champs and expect good things. Ryze is 45% win ratio and sucks dick because he was nerfed. GG and RIP your arguments.

Lugg2 votes

Ahri hasn't had a significant nerf pretty much ever. She has ALWAYS been one of the top 5 mids in every meta. She needs a major nerf and not be played for about 2 years to be honest.

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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Ahri hasn't had a significant nerf pretty much ever. She has ALWAYS been one of the top 5 mids in every meta. She needs a major nerf and not be played for about 2 years to be honest.

#O.O

when did you start playing league?

Lugg1 votes

Look at the patch history for Ahri and tell me what patch she got nerfed.

Here's a hint, she never has been since release. They reworked her a bit when DFG was removed, but it didn't really weaken her at all.

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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Look at the patch history for Ahri and tell me what patch she got nerfed.

Here's a hint, she never has been since release. They reworked her a bit when DFG was removed, but it didn't really weaken her at all.

i didn't start season 1. I play 3-4 so when the release of ahri I never get a chance to play her first of the bat, I don't know what the meta is like. a video or stat doesn't tells all the stories so I will start on earlier season.

Om ok let see. after the rework

  • Mana cost inscrease -REMOVED AMP ( just to be clearly this is what the thread is all about) THE AMP !!! -buff on Charm damage to compensate the AMP NERFED- BUT later on reduce -buff on fox damage to compensate the AMP NERFED- BUT later on reduce

if my memories is wrong plz do correct me.

Lugg1 votes

Ahri had the +20% damage removed from her charm is true, but she got HUGE compensation buffs in return. Her orb gave her the MS speed boost, her Foxfire did increased damage and better scaling, her ult was improved, and her charm did more damage with additional scaling. In early situations she started doing MORE damage and got fed even quicker.

Seriously, how OP do you want a champ to be? She is currently ranked #3 of ALL mids in the game and she has a higher win rate than the #1 mid! I have played the game for over 3 1/2 years and she has NEVER not been in the top 5 for mids.

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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Ahri had the +20% damage removed from her charm is true, but she got HUGE compensation buffs in return. Her orb gave her the MS speed boost, her Foxfire did increased damage and better scaling, her ult was improved, and her charm did more damage with additional scaling. In early situations she started doing MORE damage and got fed even quicker.

Seriously, how OP do you want a champ to be? She is currently ranked #3 of ALL mids in the game and she has a higher win rate than the #1 mid! I have played the game for over 3 1/2 years and she has NEVER not been in the top 5 for mids.

they removed the buff damage which give her nothing in return.

Lugg3 votes

Did you even read my reply? Epic fail.

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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Did you even read my reply? Epic fail.

I did not see

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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Ahri had the +20% damage removed from her charm is true, but she got HUGE compensation buffs in return. Her orb gave her the MS speed boost, her Foxfire did increased damage and better scaling, her ult was improved, and her charm did more damage with additional scaling. In early situations she started doing MORE damage and got fed even quicker.

Seriously, how OP do you want a champ to be? She is currently ranked #3 of ALL mids in the game and she has a higher win rate than the #1 mid! I have played the game for over 3 1/2 years and she has NEVER not been in the top 5 for mids.

Nah

the buff is revert back shortly after her rework. so all the damage that been greatly reduce off charm have nothing in return one thing doh. "the garbage movement speed" which almost a close gap ability will caught up to her.

Lugg1 votes

The main benefit of the MS speed boost is to allow Ahri to roam to other lanes for kills, which snowballs her.

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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The main benefit of the MS speed boost is to allow Ahri to roam to other lanes for kills, which snowballs her.

it cause mana

Lugg1 votes

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it cause mana

???

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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???

LOL ops XD " Cost"

YCitizenSnipsY1 votes

Wow what made you come back to the game since you obviously skipped season 4 in your 3 1/2 years playing?

Lugg1 votes

Please explain.

YCitizenSnipsY1 votes

"I have played the game for over 3 1/2 years and she has NEVER not been in the top 5 for mids."

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/ahri

Don't let facts get in the way of your circle jerk.

Lugg1 votes

That's pretty funny considering your link does NOTHING to prove your case.

YCitizenSnipsY1 votes

You don't see the drop to a 5% play rate and the 48% winrate.

Which by the way, stretches back to Nov. 2013.

Yeah she was real top tier with those stats for most of 2014. But like I said, never let logic get in the way of a good circle jerk. Keep farming them upvotes.

Lugg1 votes

What are you smoking? The site clearly says she has a 16% play rate and 53.5% win rate.

I'm pretty sure everyone sees that you are the one in the middle of the circle jerk. ROFL

YCitizenSnipsY1 votes

The other side of the chart stupid. The popularity history from season 4 and the win rate from season 4.

You said she has had a perpetual win rate of 52% and always been top tier, thats why I asked what brought you back to the game, since its clear you skipped season 4.

Season 5 is literally the only time Ahri has been that popular for that long.

Lugg1 votes

Her play rate and win rate season 4 were still in the top 5 for mids. No idea where you are coming up with this.

YCitizenSnipsY1 votes

Not at a 5% pick rate she wasn't. She was such an unpopular champion at the time that during the spring split when Shiphtur picked her, they called her an off meta pocket pick.

I get it you don't like Ahri and have to make things up just to express your hatred of the champ, but "oh my god, stop fucking lying."

Lugg1 votes

It was more of a 6-7% rate if you look at the chart. When you consider how many mid champs there are and the fact that Zed, LB, and Fizz were pretty dominant at that time, that is a very high pick rate. Look at most of the other mids that season who had 1/2-1% pick rates.

It's not that I hate Ahri at all. She is way less toxic than the assassin mids. I just remarked at the start that she has been very strong for a very long time. That can't be disputed at all by anyone sane or who really knows the game.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

And Lee Sin doesn't?

Lugg1 votes

Lee is just as bad. The only time he isn't top tier jungle is when some item or rework makes another champ God mode. Even then he is still played and does well.

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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Lee is just as bad. The only time he isn't top tier jungle is when some item or rework makes another champ God mode. Even then he is still played and does well.

hmm? what is this?

CrimsonReaps2 votes

i love ahri mid lane but she doesnt need to be any stronger i cam already kill an adc with q-w-e-q and an easy ult nuke in teamfights

Pawn of hearts1 votes

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i love ahri mid lane but she doesnt need to be any stronger i cam already kill an adc with q-w-e-q and an easy ult nuke in teamfights

well let see a all champ in league have atless the " q,w,e,r " some are passive but w/e so you not suppose to kill anyone with abilityS?

Poptart Evelynn1 votes

I don't mean to be rude but this is a huge post of mere opinions across the board. You lack so much of the balance change reasons.

I suggest you go back and read Riot post on Ahri changes while back. Need to learn about the reasons behind the way she is balanced currently.

(Fyi she didn't lose charm damage increase because of DFG so to state that reason as your reasoning for it to be put back is kinda funny)

Pawn of hearts1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Poptart Kat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FN8rbbYT,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-02-20T05:03:11.861+0000)

I don't mean to be rude but this is a huge post of mere opinions across the board. You lack so much of the balance change reasons.

I suggest you go back and read Riot post on Ahri changes while back. Need to learn about the reasons behind the way she is balanced currently.

(Fyi she didn't lose charm damage increase because of DFG so to state that reason as your reasoning for it to be put back is kinda funny)

Pft the stacking Amp on D.F.G is what people complain about if you wasn't in the meta back than you have absolute no reason to be in this thread.

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