INSTEAD OF TIBBERS RANDOMLY POPPING OUT OF NOWHERE AND INSTAKILLING YOUR CARRIES

IAMS4T4N·Mar 30, 2015·8 votes·808 views

PLEASE make it an AOE projectile kinda like brand's ult so you at least have time to react That is all i ask Thank you

18 Comments

PhifeMar 30, 20155 votes

Its not coming out of no where... if annie has 4 stacks up and shes within 500units of you, youre gonna need lube.

IcyPepperMar 30, 20152 votes

I picked up a new habit lately from a tip from an Annie main. I hold three charges, and when I go for the stun bear I hit E first and BOOM.

They never see it coming.

PhifeMar 30, 20151 votes

Lool yeah that shits instantaneous.

ExHentaiMar 30, 20151 votes

Another cool little thing to do is to hold 3 stacks, fire Q, then press E before it lands for a single target stealth stun.

IcyPepperMar 30, 20151 votes

That's evil.

Time to play some "support" Annie.

Irelia BotMar 30, 20153 votes

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Its not coming out of no where... if annie has 4 stacks up and shes within 500units of you, youre gonna need lube.

make that 900 with flash.

She really needs some kind of delay on her ult. Even .75 second channel would do the trick.

IcyPepperMar 30, 20154 votes

Hey now, can't judge a champion's power budget by a summoner spell that's accessible to everyone.

The counterplay to flash+Tibbers is either flashing the second you see her flash, or using some mobility spell or whatnot. If you have zhonyas, you can use that too (and if she waits for you to come out of stasis... well that shouldn't be a problem in teamfights, she'll be dead).

Sir YamazukiMar 30, 20151 votes

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Hey now, can't judge a champion's power budget by a summoner spell that's accessible to everyone.

The counterplay to flash+Tibbers is either flashing the second you see her flash, or using some mobility spell or whatnot. If you have zhonyas, you can use that too (and if she waits for you to come out of stasis... well that shouldn't be a problem in teamfights, she'll be dead).

Actually, even if you flash as she ults, you can still be stunned anyways. Also, not everyone is playing with no ping, and we're humans, not machines, so our actions are delayed. You have to predict when she's going to flash ult you, but even then, she can choose not to flash since you have to flash before her to not get hit. A lot of dash abilities aren't instant, so you get stopped. As for Zhonyas, again, you're forced to Zhonyas before she reaches you, and she isn't forced into focusing you either, she can just kill any other squishy in the area. Never mind that, but you don't start the game with Zhonyas as a mage anyways, neither does bottom lane when she roams for double kills. Only thing that stops her ult is Banshees, but again, you don't start the game with one, and you can't really have your entire team buy it as a 1st item either.

IcyPepperMar 30, 20151 votes

shrugs

What am I supposed to say? It's not like Annie is without weaknesses or counterplay. You could easily counterpick with someone who has more range, or a magic tank that can defend against tibbers.

But the flash+spell combo is available to anyone. Sona can do it, Vi can do it, Lee Sin can do it, Leona could do it, and so on and so on.

Sir YamazukiMar 30, 20151 votes

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shrugs

What am I supposed to say? It's not like Annie is without weaknesses or counterplay. You could easily counterpick with someone who has more range, or a magic tank that can defend against tibbers.

But the flash+spell combo is available to anyone. Sona can do it, Vi can do it, Lee Sin can do it, Leona could do it, and so on and so on.

You said she had counter play due to flash or mobility, she can cancel mobility and flashing her tibbers still leaves you cced.

Other champions got nerfed for doing what she does, and those other champions had "counter play" too.

Sona, Vi, Lee, Leona do not deal absurd aoe damage or 100-0 champions with ease. Annie wins more games than them as well. She's not even squishy either due to the fact she can build roa+rylai+Zhonya+e

"Counter picking" her is under the assumption you're picking after her, and Riot had stated before they don't want matches to be heavily decided by champion select, and champions have been nerfed for being too dominant when their counter picks weren't in the game.

KrigjerMar 30, 20152 votes

A projectile would make sense, because Tibbers is just her teddy bear infused with magic.

In the cinematic, she even throws Tibbers at her opponent.

ZephyrDrakeMar 30, 20152 votes

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A projectile would make sense, because Tibbers is just her teddy bear infused with magic.

In the cinematic, she even throws Tibbers at her opponent.

ok, then please buff all her skills and her range and her everything.

IcyPepperMar 30, 20151 votes

I can see that, actually. More range for the price of a projectile delay. Her weakness is range, her strength is cast time, so shifting her power budget around a little could shake things up and make things interesting for both sides.

AntonokMar 30, 20151 votes

At the age of two, Annie miraculously ensorcelled a shadow bear - a ferocious denizen of the petrified forests outside the colony - turning it into her pet. To this day she keeps her bear Tibbers by her side, often keeping him spellbound as a stuffed doll to be carried like a child's toy.

Tibbers is a real ~~boy~~ bear!

ZephyrDrakeMar 30, 20151 votes

she is summoning Tibbers not launching him at you so making it a projectile would make no sense at all

Knight SoIaire Mar 30, 20151 votes

actualy it would make more sence if she launched tibbers instead of summoning him

since you know ... she already holds him in her hands, and just makes him bigger

so it would make sence for her to throw it instead of tibbers just teleporting (completly not compatible with a pyromancer theme imo)

sense likes to backfire

Knight SoIaire Mar 30, 20151 votes

well if its a fast projectile and annie gets some range i see it only as a good change that would make annie funnier to play while also making her less frustrating and adding counterplay

or should i say changing counterplay ? since the counterplay of "stay out of her range" gets removed, she gets to stun from further away there is also capability to dodge it, projectile should be fast so dodging is unlikely but the icing on the cake is that qqs removing the stunn also works, since annie isnt in a range to follow up one her combo to 100-0 you right when tibbers drops

its certainly interesting, thou i dont see riot being so active in changing that