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It's time for a fizz nerf.

Morgana Paragon·3/8/2018, 9:39:24 AM·8 votes·2,339 views

Fizz = no risk wtf insanely high level reward.

The champion requires no skill at the moment. With terrible bronze 5 farm if he lands an ult you automatically die at 6. It requires no skill whatsoever.

His damage realistically needs to be cut about in half.

I'm playing versus him as morgana mid. I'm 20 cs ahead of him. We both have no items. He hits 6 and instantly kills me at full health + blackshield. That is absolutely fucking insane.

HE IS 20 CS BEHIND. 20. CS. BEHIND.

How the fuck can somebody basically 1 hit kill a champion WHEN THEY ARE BEHIND?

Absolutely terrible game design.

24 Comments

Jamaree3/8/2018, 9:44:37 AM3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Morgana Paragon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FAoX2Adw,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-08T09:39:24.832+0000)

Fizz = no risk wtf insanely high level reward.

No risk, literally has to be on top of you to do the brunt of his damage.

The champion requires no skill at the moment. With terrible bronze 5 farm if he lands an ult you automatically die at 6. It requires no skill whatsoever.

False.

His damage realistically needs to be cut about in half.

Why?

I'm playing versus him as morgana mid. I'm 20 cs ahead of him. We both have no items. He hits 6 and instantly kills me at full health + blackshield. That is absolutely fucking insane.

An assassin doing a lot of damage? In other news, water is wet and grass is green.

HE IS 20 CS BEHIND. 20. CS. BEHIND.

K, and?

How the fuck can somebody basically 1 hit kill a champion WHEN THEY ARE BEHIND?

Because he is an assassin and you are squishy?

Absolutely terrible game design.

I mean, Morgana throws down a pool at wave then walks away, she has some bullshit in her kit too.

Deneviel3/8/2018, 10:29:02 AM1 votes

He can't do anything that any other sins can't do .... he also take more risk from the likes of Akali ,Kayn Zed Khazix .

He can be easely kited, he can be easely harrased, he fall off pretty hard and he got some huge counter like Vladimir Lissandra Ryze Diana.

You just got outplaied ... deal with that. just yesterday i plaied vs a full build Ryze that was litterally able to kill me with 1 W->Q .... Flash -> W-> Q and i was dead, and i even had item 3155. Same can be said for Annie.

Killing a champ only cause you don't like him it's not the way to go and this comes from someone that don't like fizz at all.

Returning to the OT:

[{quoted}](name=Morgana Paragon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FAoX2Adw,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-08T09:39:24.832+0000) ....... We both have no items. ... ..... HE IS 20 CS BEHIND.

So you didn't used your CS lead at all ... Having more CS didn't mean he didn't took exp, you had gold lead and didn't used it whisely.

You have a ban so just use it on him .... for example i often ban Lux simply cause i hate her .... with this new runes seeing a champ that can spam her R every 20 sec and that can trow random Q and get a kill following up with E R if it lands make no sense to me.

Malix Farwin3/8/2018, 10:30:03 AM1 votes

The OP is just whining, look at his match history. He just lost to Fizz.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Morgana+Paragon

Vekkna3/8/2018, 5:12:02 PM1 votes

I recently won a game against a Fizz. From the OP timeline:

3m: Zyra kills Fizz (first blood) 6m: Zyra kills Fizz 8m: Zyra kills Fizz 8m: Zyra dies to Shaco 11m: My team takes Cloud Drake 12m: Zyra dies to Shaco 15m: Shyv kills Fizz 15m: Zyra takes mid turret (turret fb) 16m: Fizz kills Zyra 17m: Shyv takes top turret 18m: Zyra kills Tristana 18m: Fizz kills Zyra 19m: Ezreal kills Fizz 19m: Ezreal takes bot turret 21m: Zyra kills Shaco 23m: Ezreal kills Fizz 23m: Zyra takes inner mid turret 26m: Fizz kills Zyra 29m: My team takes 5 more turrets and 3 inhibs 29m: Fizz kills Zyra

Ok, so let's look at these 100-0 kills Fizz got on me.

16m:
Fizz: (lvl 9) at 4144g. Has Protobelt, Seal, Mercs, and Refillable. Has Null Orb. Zyra: (lvl 11) at 5445g. Has Luden's Doran's, Sorc's, and Refillable. Has Null Orb.

By the way, he missed his ult. The entire situation was so completely absurd that Fizz and I had a conversation in /all chat about it. After he got the kill, he laughed to his team about how broken it is that a 0/4 Fizz with one 2500g item can miss an ult and still nuke a mage two levels up from 100-0 with null orb.

I'll admit that Fizz is particularly hard on Zyra because his E resets plant targeting priorities. Even still, it's pretty ridiculous. And he continued to do it every couple of minutes for the rest of the game, regardless of me building hp and MR, and regardless of whether he landed his ult (which is as easy to miss as a Lux E).

Bald Hobo7/23/2018, 8:24:38 PM1 votes

Now that fizz is already nerfed, he can’t even one shot someone. Because all his cds are so long, if you can’t even one shot someone with fizz ur basically died. So now basically all mid laners hard counter him. Now ur happy? Bxtch

phoenix4301/16/2019, 3:16:50 AM1 votes

Cool but the "20 cs" part has nothing to do with this. You already stated that you two had no items. So the amount of gold that you own doesn't matter.Fizz