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They're very few options for AP Champs to defend against AD but AD champs have so many options ugh

Naagiinii·2/20/2016, 11:59:21 PM·7 votes·4,298 views

*[slayer-jinx-unamused]*It really bugs me that the item builds for counter play are usually always in the AD champs favor when it comes to defensive items against AP Champs. As an AP Mage main, i always find it difficult to build defensively against a Zed or a Yasuo because the have so many items to protect themselves from AP damage and are able to build so much armor penetration, which is a mage's worst nightmare since all mages are super ad squishy (egCassiopeia Lissandra Malzahar ) Below is a list comparing item utilization for defensive options for AP and AD Champs and you will see it's unequally favored to AD. I just hope Riot has a solution for this in the upcoming mage update.

MAGIC RESIST ITEMS THAT AD CHAMPS CAN EFFICIENTLY USE:

item 3155 item 3156 Hexdrinker/MoM: This item is perfect for ad assassins. It provides 20 AD, and 35 magic resist. Its MR is pretty high for something that can usually be bought by the 2nd or 3rd back and can make spells basically a tickle early and mid game. It falls off late mid game but can be upgraded to Maw, increasing AD to 50, MR to 55 and adding 10% ARPEN. And in case you thought a mage finally has YOU beat grants A SHIELD THAT ABSORBS 300 MAGIC DAMAGE PLUS 100% OF ANY OTHER MR ADDED. PLUS (if upgraded to MoM) ADDS 25% ATK SPEED AND 10% LIFE STEAL/SPELL VAMP So you can go HAM on the mage, shredding him with the ARPEN and ATTK Damage plus gaining some life back.

AD Champs that can use this include but not limited to: MasterYi Zed Talon Yasuo Tryndamere

item 3065 Spirit Visage: Usually bought by tanky top laners. So now both AD caster/assassins have a viable way to prevent magic damage. Stats +500 health (gotta stay healthy) +70 magic resistance (one of the highest in the game) +150% base health regeneration (GOTTA STAY HEALTHY) +10% cooldown reduction (spam spam spam your ablilites so this may benefit for AD Casters/assassins as well....great) Passive UNIQUE: Increases effectiveness of all sources of healing by 20%, including health regeneration, life steal and spell vamp. (Build BotRK or any healing items/abilites and gg you presence in lane will outlast most ap Mages because the only healing ability we have is summoner 7 , and no mages carries that spell, and potions. (except for Ahri Elise Cassiopeia Kayle Nidalee Vladimir they have a efficient form of self heal)

AD Champs that can use this include but not limited to: DrMundo Aatrox Trundle Volibear Warwick Zac

item 3137 item 3139 Dervish Blade/Mercurial Scimitar This is a viable choice for the ADC due to the stats it brings. Stats +35 magic resistance (of course) +75 attack damage (who doesn't love this) +10% life steal (Heal yourself back up after damaging spells) Active UNIQUE – QUICKSILVER: Removes all debuffs from your champion and grants +50% movement speed for 1 second. 90 second cooldown. (This and item 3102 are cancerous to mages. Lost of mages such as Ahri Anivia MalzaharBrand need a initial spell to make other spells work. The 90 sec cooldown doesn't help either so burst mages are left helpless. Not only burst mages but AP supports such as Thresh and Morgana are basically useless with that active.

AD Champs that can use this include but not limited to:Ashe Caitlyn Draven Ezreal Kalista

item 3102Banshee's Veil Basically the same as Mercs except more for tanks and supp Stats +500 health +70 magic resistance (Lol Maw's shield is gonna stack nicely) +100% base health regeneration Passive UNIQUE: Grants a spell shield that blocks the next enemy ability. This shield refreshes after no damage is taken from enemy champions for 40 seconds.

ITEMS THAT COUNTER AD CHAMPS FOR AP CHAMPS

item 3191 item 3157 Zhonya's Hourglass Don't get me wrong Zhonyas is a great item. The ap is nice and the passive is what makes it iconic but there are some holes. Stats +45 armor (good early game but how do you get a Zhonya's that early in the game? Then after 20mins its a joke) +100 ability power (This is nice) Active UNIQUE – STASIS: Put yourself in Stasis icon stasis for 2.5 seconds, rendering yourself untargetable and invulnerable for the duration, but also unable to move, attack, cast spells, or use items during this time. 90 second cooldown. (Trust me it's saved me from sticky situations but its not made for everyone. After in stasis you completely open to any incoming bursts and skillshots, or your attacker can wait paitiently until you comeback and run you through. If you dont have much mobility like most mages dont, your screwed.)

AP Champs that can use this include but not limited to:Katarina Lissandra Heimerdinger ...lol every mage HAS to use this when up against an ad champ because its the only item that gives both armor and ap unlike AP champs who have variety.

item 3110 Frozen Heart This is the only item i can say that actually protects mages. Although no Ap given and not cheap its gets you a bit tanky. Stats +90 armor (NICE) +400 mana(NICE) +20% cooldown reduction (NICE) Aura UNIQUE: Reduces the attack speed of nearby enemies by 15% (700 range). (NICEEEEE)

All in all im just hoping Riot can include more aggressive items for ap champs that protect them from ad because we only have 2 choices and it isnt really fair.

Thanks,

Naagiinii Cassiopeia

9 Comments

Hayaishi22/21/2016, 12:49:33 AM5 votes

It used to be the other way around and nobody batted an eye, now that the AP overlords don't have the best itemization it has to be changed.

YCitizenSnipsY2/21/2016, 12:20:09 AM4 votes

Has literally never been in favor of AD champion until this season. I've said it before and I'll say it again, as a mage main you were just used to having better itemization by default, no that its starting to tilt in the other direction you want to whine and cry like AD champs didn't have to deal with this problem for years.

JavelinJoe2/21/2016, 12:16:59 AM2 votes

I would be fine with just an ap variant of item 3137 /item 3139

hsumis1ove2/21/2016, 12:22:52 AM1 votes

just go like randuins omen. thats the biggest adc/ ad crit mid counter. Ap champs also have things like liandrys and rylais which give you health and even seraphs embrace with the shield. rod of ages is strong too cuz of the health, mana, and ap it gives you. I feel ap champs are op and very hard to counter as an adc. Think of leblanc; adcs worst nightmare. one shots all squishies. there arent enough mr items.

DemoGuide2/21/2016, 5:40:50 AM1 votes

I actually think AP itemization is fine, except, maybe ridiculous gold cost on them. Problem is that AD items are just WAY WAY BETTER.

And those pesky AD assasins, marksmen and cancerjunglers are dominating the game right now, and no class has a counter. Rito said that they increaced gold cost because of amount of utility provided, well then, look again at your precisious ad items.