About the Ahri buff on PBE

Kumiho Ahri··4 votes·2,508 views

I am an Ahri main so I am happy to see her getting buffed, but I dont understand why she gets this buff. Since her mini-rework it feels good to play her. she doesnt feel weak at all. I think she will get a new skin (Pool Party Ahri, maybe?) and Riot wants to push her popularity a little bit more to increase sales.

Does anyone know why she is getting buffed? I would like read different opinions about this topic.

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Sailor Mint6 votes

Because she's been mediocre since her first rework/DFG removal, and the partial revert didn't do much.

She's not a good assassin and is outclassed as a burst mage. The rework added a bit more damage potential, at the cost of a lot of safety.

With that said, she's nowhere near as bad as some self hating Ahri mains would want you to believe.

wildfox992 votes

she's not bad if you pick her in low elo or if you are not confident with her,but her kit gives no rewards for maining her

ahri mains say she's bad because another champion hard mained gives 1000 times more rewards,and since we love playing this champion don't even dare to tell us to change our main

Linna Excel4 votes

She doesn't really work that well as a mage or an assassin right now in high elo. Her low (for her) pick and ban rates suggests that she's not worth playing as is right now.

Fízz v21 votes

There are a lot of champs that arent worth playing right now tho

Linna Excel2 votes

Unfortunately Ahri is a bit special in that she gets and sells a lot of skins so riot doesn't like leaving her in a not-worth-playing state.

ExcessiveProtest4 votes

Short answer: she's getting buffed because the changes a few patches ago were meant to be power-neutral, but didn't work out that way.

When she wins, she wins harder, and when she loses, she loses badly was the goal. No more EQWRIgniting the ADC, only to watch them walk away with a few hundred extra health, and no more outrunning skillshots in a straight line Prometheus-style, all the way to tower. The end result was substantially weaker performance by lower players, and slightly weaker by mains and pros; not exactly power-neutral.

As for why most Ahri mains complain a lot, most of it is continued fallout from 5.2, when Rito forcibly changed her playstyle, and she went from pro-viable but not dominant to near-broken at low level, but troll-pick level in pro play (Trusting Faker's word on that part). Add three years of devs ignoring complaints about the change, with the exception of repeated nerfs targeting everything but her tacked-on safety, and a lot of the old players outright left. The remaining ones are still mad about their champ being deliberately reworked out of high-end play, but argue continuously with generally newer mains who showed up after the changes. By ignoring complaints for three years, Rito left themselves with a no-win scenario.

For the skin part, two problems. First, if you go through the patch history, Ahri is traditionally an exception to the skin rule: she gets compensation **nerfs **when skins come out, meaning she's probably not getting one unless they decide 15 mana and .4 seconds is too powerful the patch after. Second, while she's usually added to whatever skin line comes out in late Auigust/early September every year, Rito has a bit of a vendetta against Pool Party Ahri. Combine this with the fact that her last skin got more complaints than the simultaneous Vayne buffs, and they're more likely to give her nothing this year than give her a Pool Party skin, the only known upcoming line. Only to realize that people are so used to complaining about any sentence mentioning both Ahri and Skins that they'll keep going no matter what happens.

wildfox993 votes

she's basically a trollpick in high elo,the rework made her viabile only as low elo pick (she's a Garen of the midlane),that's why if you go on /r/ahrimains you see people commplaining 24/7

Sailor Mint3 votes

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she's basically a trollpick in high elo,the rework made her viabile only as low elo pick (she's a Garen of the midlane),that's why if you go on /r/ahrimains you see people commplaining 24/7

Ahri being mediocre at Diamond II+ really doesn't say much.
She's fine for the remaining 99% of the playerbase, but as with all non-top tier picks, there's little reason to pick her if she's not one of your main champions.

You can't blindly first pick her as a safe fallback pick and expect to win the game anyway. And that's not necessarily a bad thing.

wildfox992 votes

she wan't meant to be a low elo champion,and i don't see why she can't be good here

Ahri being mediocre at Diamond II+ really doesn't say much

it does,here players are good so if a kit is not bad but is literally a troll there is a problem,her kit could have been balanced both in high and low elo,but they decided to randomly put a charm amp that were removed for a reson,making her kit too unreliable and easy to counter (she can't do her job if on top of having to hit an hard skillshot her combo have a forced play patter so she's telegraphed af)

maybe there is no problem for you,but suddenly making a champion supposed to have a decent skillcap a low elo bait is kinda frustrating for the mains in high elo or near it

Warlord Rhinark2 votes

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