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Is this game really about CARRYING or is it about if your team WANTS to be CARRIED?

RollinNaybkhood·6/24/2019, 3:36:43 PM·12 votes·8,742 views

This isnt a QQ thread or anything of the sort but I'm referring to this specific game right here

https://matchhistory.oce.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/OC1/245489024/201764441?tab=overview

Could someone explain to me what I could have done in this situation where 4 other members of my team were basically feeding harder than the red cross in Africa? This is excluding the fact that everyone but the Thresh wasn't realising that they were making stupid decisions and flaming each other for dumb reasons.

What I as a player did this game.

  • Secured objectives (Way more than the jungler did, its almost like he had no idea that dragon or baron existed)
  • Killed each and every laner that my allies were struggling with (Even though they ended up flashing into 1v3s and dying)
  • Pushed down mid lane till inhib after acing team (This is where the Lux began pinging me saying that me and the jungler pushing to the inhib was bad and we shoulda went for T1 top turret.
  • Tried my ABSOLUTE best to calm everyone down and basically even got on my knees and begged them to stop making dumb plays

At one point in the game the Thresh even realized that the players on our team were playing worse than bronze players. Also to me it really seemed like the fact that I was carrying them didnt sit well with them either, its almost like they'd rather lose than be carried by someone. I've seen this common trend within all my Draven games where players will either see that I'm POPPING OFF and decide to chill and let me carry them, or see you doing gods work and want to be useful so they try to take the spotlight from you which ends up costing the game. It's like being carried hurts their pride or something, even I'm not that big of a degenerate and I PLAY DRAVEN. If someone is doing insanely well and helping other lanes pop off, I'd just sit back and wait for my victory screen. These players would rather have a gray screen for 20 minutes of the 30 minute game they play and lose 20 LP instead of gain 20 LP.

Is this game really about CARRYING or is it about if your team WANTS to be CARRIED?

29 Comments

Clockwork Mouse6/24/2019, 9:09:58 PM3 votes

I play LoL more casually now because I realized how bad it was as a competitive game. Years ago, a youtuber named Dunkey quit the game and gave his reasons, and the more I play the more his reasons crop up. Until you get into very high elo the game boils down to "who is gonna get caught out first"

Très Pauvre6/24/2019, 5:42:14 PM3 votes

I generally post the same thing in threads like this. Boils down too carry as hard as you can, but when you can't, get carried harder. Identify win conditions and if that win condition isn't you, support whoever it is. You won't BE the carry every game most people in their proper elo just can't peak perform every game for a multitude of reasons. When you get stomped build and play for whoever has the best chance if getting the W. I wish everyone played like that.

ChaosReyn6/24/2019, 3:56:57 PM2 votes

I main both halves of bot. Bot lane is by far the lane of "carry me til I'm useful" so I usually take these threads with a grain of salt.

That being said, have you ever considered that it's both? I mean, it's a team game, so naturally everyone needs to play to win together. But Its also a game where if you see teammates struggling, you put them on your back, and tell them "you rest up for a bit, I got this." There's gonna be a time they're gonna need to do the same for you, more than likely.

Kattzy6/24/2019, 6:59:59 PM1 votes

Agreed. I see this happen so often: one lane is crushing and one lane is feeding. Feeding lane gives up because they don't seem to understand that if they just sit back and play conservatively, we will still win. (Or maybe they just don't want to play the game if they aren't playing well, but uh, it's a team game and sometimes you have to suck it up.)

knobblez6/25/2019, 12:02:23 AM1 votes

From my experience, there are a lot of players that are more concerned with how THEY are playing and less about the big W. I main Jungle and what often happens is, for example:

Jungler is getting Top and Mid kills and both are winning lane, Bot is continually pushing and getting ganked. Instead of checking the scores of their teammates and actually looking at the other lanes, they type "where's our jungler?!?"; completely ignoring the fact that their teammates are kicking the enemy's ass.

(This happens in different variations, usually Top or Bot because Jungle naturally tries to keep Mid in check or enemy will easily invade)

These are the players in the game that would rather be 10-0-0 at the end of a LOSS, than 0-0-10 at the end of a WIN.

I wonder if requiring a WIN for an S would help...?

3TWarrior6/25/2019, 4:26:59 AM1 votes

players and humanity as a whole are always weird

I once had the opposing team more afraid of me as Soraka than anyone else because I actually landed my skillshots XD

Xela Syab6/25/2019, 5:26:25 AM1 votes

League is not about carrying, it's about making the enemy team throw.

CrazyMonkeyCZ6/24/2019, 3:42:01 PM1 votes

This isnt a QQ thread or anything of the sort but I'm referring to this specific game right here

Not going to read through the rest.

Simply said, every game isn't winnable, anyone who claims the opposite is R word.

Move on. Keep your mental, the most important thing for climbing.

TTvRareChill6/25/2019, 3:53:15 PM1 votes

I think this game is more about playing a metric fuck ton of games and playing well with the shit you are given.

GreenKnight6/24/2019, 3:47:11 PM1 votes

Just don't tell players you are carrying. Let them realise this themselves. If anything, i know a lot about being carried, as an old support main.

uNhoLeee6/24/2019, 4:36:57 PM1 votes

no, this server is legit garbage. i played in china for 3 seasons, reached diamond and had multiple plat accounts. you know what happens when you give a laner a lead in china? they keep it. you know what happens if you give a laner a lead in oce? they go 0-4. i mean riot has given solo laners so much buffs. xp and plates compared to jg? but what happens midgame? im a higher level than them. lma0ce server.